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Veronica you are so right. As far as electronics is concerned, the little boy is not big on those yet plus anything I suggest to Dad, he does the opposite. My girls on the other hand, are electronics junkies. So playing outside is of no interest to them. Give them a tablet or a laptop and you dont hear from them until its time to eat. I cannot use a headset. I have a regular office phone.

Hope you have me cracking up "hose and girdles" two phrases I have not heard in years. Its amazing how people feel up to doing things when they want to. I know very well about the do gooders who want to be seen and recognized. Im glad you have the strength and wisdom to see them for who they are.
Thank you for understanding that this woman has taken over and thats how I see it. However when my sister is in town,everything is peaceful. She takes her calls outside and doesnt act as if she runs the house. This only goes to show that the day to day behavior is deliberate.
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Toomuch would it help if you wear head phones to dampen the noise? I believe you said previously that you work in the basement. If the money is available you could get noise dampening insulation installed. I really understand your frustration especially as this is you way of earning a living. maybe you could suggest to Dad that he buy something like computer games for the boy to play with. For the boy remember NOT your kids. He would soon get addicted and peace would rein. Explain to your girls why this is happening so they don't feel left out by grandpa. I have no idea what to suggest because I am way out of the loop on that one but I know my grandkids have to have their electronics pried out of their hands. I am afraid nothing is going to change regarding this caregiver Dad is far too infatuated with her for you to get her out. She gives him all the attention he craves for whatever she can get out of him. Sad but MEN.
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Oh Lord oh Lord....too much...I can only envision my foot recoiling to plant it to someones posterior...I honestly would blow a gasket...but I am on the brink of doing that anyway these days....I went out a few minutes ago and toodled around in my flowers...doing a little weeding before the heat sets in...and trying to clear my head and get the anger in me calmed down...didn't work...all I could think of was the inconsiderate family who whines about how horrible they feel all the time, how they never have time for anything (they're all retired) and yet there they all are, in all their splendor....at the wedding...I had to run an errand that day and could not stand going from the house to the car...but they felt well enough to stand out in a pasture in the heat of the day all dressed up...and these folks wear hose and girdles....and yet I know ..on down the road...and hopefully a long way down the road...I know this same group of bible thumping do gooders only when someone is watching will be engulfing our little home when Mama's health takes a turn for the even worse than it is already...they will want to stay with me, do for me, get in my way in general...and that may be when it gets ugly.....sorry, but for me they haven't been here when Mama could have enjoyed their company...they can kiss my A$$ when that time arrives....

In your situation...I don't know what to say....I know what I'd want to say to all of them....but I do know every situation is different...I just know I could not take it...I would be so p o'd that this person WHO YALL ARE PAYING is basically taking over your home....Oh man, it makes me angry thinking about it....I know the infamous day the home health lady came to bath Mama and this was one whom we had not been having...this one started ordering me around...it was the last time she came here I can assure you......not having it in my home....bless your heart...
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Sorry to keep ranting but if we forbid her from bringing her son she will retaliate by complaining about my children.
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Hope22, it beyonds drives me crazy. I cant even put into words. Dont get me wrong, he's absolutely adorable. But the noise is a distraction. It sounds like a stampede over my head. My father talks and jokes with him in an extremely loud voice. As I said I mentioned it to my sister and her response was, "Dad said she can bring him whenever she wants.." The caregiver knows she is doing the wrong thing but her defense is "its okay with Dad". The kicker is that she gets angry because my girls who are much older than her child dont want to play with him. So once again instead of blending and being a help, she is a hinderance. We work for her. She throws a fit, grabs her things swears she is not coming back ,my father rushes after her.
This is an employee, not a relative. As much as my siblings say my opinion counts, it doesnt. Ive brought her behavior to their attention numerous times. She knows that as long as Dad is happy, my opinion doesnt count. So I have to put up with the daily nonsense.
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Again! Narc sis wants a July party, oldest daughter wants me to celebrate with my kids, grandkids, with narc sis, and POA sis. She just does not get it YET!
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Ahh, the dark side of social media! Whatareyagonnado....
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Whine..whine...whine.....OK...another Facebook faux paus moment......most of my Mama's family, who never "feels up to" coming here, "would come but" or just not feeling well enough to drive that far.......seems they ALL had remarkable recoveries and made it to this town to attend the wedding of my cousin this weekend.....to make it even better, the wedding was during the HEAT OF THE DAY and was out in the middle of a field, no trees, gazebos, etc....appears from the pics most of them were wearing Sunday type clothing, suits, etc....ok....so glad you all are feeling so much better now........pffffft!
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DH, just picturing myself as a saint… Tee hee. Bit of a wonky halo going on there! Thank you all for sympathy with my whining. Ex-SO is just not used to feeling ill, I'm not sure he's got a clue what he's doing right now, poor lad.
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Yes CM caregiving is thankless and hard to deal with as they are going "backwards". Children are so much easier...I raised twins on my own and it was so much easier than this!! I have issues with my childhood with my dad too and issues with him when Mom passed....he is chauvinistic and knows nothing about taking care of children or women...there are 5 daughters and he knows jack!!! Do not lower yourself to the ex, your mother or anyone else. Do what you can and hope it is for their best considering their condition. You are not a saint nor their slave...we all have to deal with whats been dealt and not force blame on others. NO ONE LIVES FOREVER!! thank goodness!! :)
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toomuch4me....I would not be able to stand that...as the caregiver, isn't that woman supposed to be there to help YOU as well as your Dad? Surely there is some way she can be made to not bring her child with her...oh Lord, that would drive me up the wall...since your sister is paying her, couldn't your sister say something to her...that makes me furious for you...and I know it's none of my business...
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oh captain you always make me laugh!
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yea , hold your ears austin. grandpa is rampagin .. lol
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for china to have done nothing about overpopulation would have been catastrophic too . i usedta read a huge book called " a chronological review of the 20th century " , before i had the web to read from . world events would unfold in picture and text form on any one of the huge pages and one could almost guess what the results would be on the next page or two .
china will respond with hot looking nanny robots . its no joke . one of em just treated me for hepc at the indy va . " lilly " 30 years too young -- good one god ..
i think they were all hot looking robots . had my d*ck jumpin around like a compass in a whirlwind ..
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Texarkana, I feel so sorry for aging parents who live in China... I remember reading how heartbreaking it was when parents are about to retire and their grown only child dies.... there are no other grown children to help out.... no grown cousins because there were no aunts and uncles.... thus, no nieces and nephews, and the parents had no siblings themselves.
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I havent whined in a couple of weeks. My children have been away since school ended, so it hasnt been nearly as hectic. In fact Ive been going to bed at 7pm lol. Dad has his dinner, then retreats upstairs and I go to my room and close the door. I cant even say he bothers me. In fact my sister even commented that things seem alot less tense. Well duh, of course. When you have to deal with one person as opposed to 4, the stress level is different. I have discovered though what I have said many time, our weekday caregiver causes alot of trouble. Yesterday she threw a huge tantrum and threatened to leave as she always does. After she throws a tantrum my father takes her out as if they are a couple who has just had a fight. She is bringing her child to work EVERY DAY. When I addressed this with my sister who pays her salary, she brushed it off by saying that my father told our caregiver she could bring her child any time. I told her he may have said that but its distracting to me because Im trying to work. Our caregiver is aware of this and takes advantage anyway.
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I am sure AD is being under reported. As a nurse I saw this coming 30 yrs ago only it was called organic brain syndrome. The tidal wave is coming and no country is really ready for the dementia that is about to hit.Even China is slowly realizing what they have done to themselves with their one child policy, there ain't gonna be anyone to take care of ma and pa.
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Watch NBC Nightly News tonight on the underreporting of Alzheimer's deaths on death certificates. The immediate cause is what is normally listed. Pushing for more information on death certificates in order to increase research funding for Alzheimer's.
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My whine for the moment.... this afternoon I took over some fruit that I bought at the outdoor farmer's market this morning, got Dad some items he needed at the drug store, and drove over to the darn post office to pick up mail from their post office box [which totally unnecessary as they can get mail delivered to their house]. Mom said "you didn't get bananas?".... Mom, I didn't go in the store.

I order groceries from an on-line grocery service which I think is great, never had any problems with the items.... but for some strange reason my Mom has numerous complaints about the items.... anyway, she didn't want bananas from the service, she wanted me to go inside the grocery store.... told her I was too busy. If I start going back inside the store for bananas, then the inside list will start growing and growing.

I wanted so much to say, "if you had moved to Ashby Ponds [retirement community] you could get bananas every day from the grocery store". My parents are still mobile, and the community has FREE transportation to the grocery stores.

Mom hasn't worked outside the house since 1946, she doesn't remember how busy she was when she was married, working full time, and running her own household.
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just had a guy this morning ask me to stop in and look at his church foundation . i dont give a rubbery rats a** about his church foundation . hope it falls down . i could salvage those 30 k used brick and build something useful with em -- like a cell tower so i can call my dope dealer without climbing up a tree and staring into the sun .. ill call it the tower of babbling .. 30 cents a minute . 60 cents to the church, folks ..
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and another thing, the ones who are all for doing and doing for folks AS LONG AS THERE IS A WAY TO MAKE IT KNOWN TO SOCIETY HOW GREAT THEY ARE...if no one is going to find out about their great works...nah...I think they'll pass....
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I will never ever forget, one of my uncles...and I mean one whom I had always had the utmost respect for and looked up to...also one whom my Mama had pretty much raised through his childhood...was talking to me on the phone one day...he flat out told me "People would help you more if you weren't the way you are".....I was dumbfounded....and so hurt. I told him...you know what every one of you best be glad I am "the way I am" because I sure don't see anyone else doing anything around here. I told him, I am done talking to you...and got off the phone...I have no idea what brought it on...just up and said that to me...but he is one of the biggest "christians" in our family...always testifying and spouting off about how he tithes, what good christian daughters he raised..blah blah blah...I don't want to get zapped by lightning..but to me, the WORST kind of christians are the ones who are so high and mighty that they can quote every scripture to you, tell you what it means, tell you how you ought to be living your life, what is wrong with you...and yet do nothing to WALK THE WALK...NOT JUST TALK THE TALK...I believe in God...but I believe in a God who sees all this and knows my hurt and sees Mama and me abandoned and understands....NOT judges me for "Being the way I am".....so thankful God is the judge of us...and NOT man.....
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Hope, hugs from here. You describe your situation really well. I'm not in your shoes, but reading your post, I can imagine how frustrating and lonely it must feel at times. Like you don't have enough responsibility as a care-giver, you're also indulging all these other people.
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I can identify with the need of privacy...the funny thing is...pretty much all we get is privacy, BUT when folks do come it is always and I do mean ALWAYS at THEIR convenience. To heck with how we are feeling, whether we had plans, or other company, or whatever, It just feels like I am totally invisible now. For some odd reason, because I am no longer a "contributing member of society" then I don't count....me me me me.....I hate that sound, but as a previous poster was saying, it is not that I am angry at my Mama, it is not her fault...and I totally knew what I was getting into..well, maybe not so much there...but I did pretty much figure most of the big shot "christian faction" of our family would be no shows when it came to being any help....in a nutshell, it just feels like I have been officially dismissed from society. And for sure, no one who has ever done this can possibly ever identify with how it feels. Even the hospice folks, unless they have also gone through this with family or loved ones...and some of ours have....but sometimes it is like I no longer have a home, or privacy, or a right to be heard, or whatever...it is just so aggravating...and today I am whining because it is Sunday. And Sunday means my brother is coming for his weekly one or two hour visit. I donn't mind him coming, I know Mama wants to see him, but you never know when he is coming, and I don't know why that even matters, I just like to know when folks are coming adn no one ever seems to think that matters or should matter anymore...after all they are all off on their own lives and if heaven forbid they had to call they might be able to just cram in a quick guilt relieving visit at their leisure...I am rambling...I honestly wish some Sundays he would just say I'm not coming today unless you need me to...I have even tried to tell him we are fine, if you want to stay up there and do whatever...but no, he seems to think that coming for an hour or so is enough so he can say he made an appearance and he is good for the week...we won't even discuss that after two and a half years he still has not given me a date as to when he is going to help me get the rest of my stuff before I get foreclosed on...and I am guessing that 's because he isn't going to do it..he just keeps throwing it out there....OK, I'm done..might as well be...life goes on.....I suppose...
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Daughter52--that drives me NUTS! I need solitary time, the more the better lately! I may be turning into a hermit :). I also get up early and feel robbed when someone is bugging me to tend to them. My mother would do all those lovely things yours does too. Hope you get some sanity time again soon!
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I don't care what religion someone is, just be nice to each other ,I though it was supposed to be a place of peace, acceptance, what an idiot I was. The Baptist church I went to as a child all the rich people in town went to it. There was probably more business done on that front lawn just before the 11 am service started than was conducted during the entire week. Did I mention the entire chamber of commerce went to this church.What I never understood was it was call the First Baptist Church of ---I'll omit the town name, so why was there never a 2nd Baptist church and so on, there were other Baptist churches in town but they had other names. I'v e seen this in other towns, there is always one church called the First Baptist church even though there are other Baptist churches. How do they get to call themselves that? Maybe I missed that day in sundayschool dodging getting beaten up by the other kids becaused they missed their usual assault of me during the week.
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Tex, sorry to hear about the whole b.s. Church thing. It seems to either bring out the best, or the worst, in people.
My mother is not particularly religious, but she is self righteous. She is NPD, and her dealings with her synagogue are like this: she tried to get into the rabbi's 'inner circle', but was unsuccessful. They didn't seem to ostracize her at all, in fact, they seemed quite welcoming. But my mother didn't appreciate not being included at their table at functions. She reported to me that "they relegated" her to one of the other tables (with other recent widows, and people her age--the NERVE!! Lol). And so, she stopped participating, and I noticed her annual donation was a bit smaller than last year's.
W/my mother, there's always a "push/pull" sensation. She wants something elusive from people, and she has such contempt for those who might actually provide it. The one neighbor who looks out for her is a devout Christian, and my mother will "allow" her to help, but will say to me (in a very condescending, contemptuous tone) "she's SUCH a Good Christian Lady." I'll think, "YES, she IS! And you're DAMN lucky to have her!"
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daughter 52 I feel for you , I think your mother is my mother's sister. As far as the church thing , my husband takes her, He gets her to the door, gets her walker out and gets her inside. Her morphine has been slightly increased and I have told her that if it starts to cause a problem and that someone needs to be with her at church it ain't gonna be me,no way in h*ll. You just don't know what I been thru because of her and her religious beliefs.I have offered more than once that I would take her and her sunday school to lunch to help with her socialization and if someone needs to actually be with her because of this increase in her morphine. I can handle a restaurant,just not a church. She isn't in a stupor because of the morphine, she is alert, oriented,able to dress, change her clothes herself, walks with a walker,just a NPD person.H*ll I'll just hire someone to go to church with her if it comes to that, I think the PTSD from my church trauma ,I would just start vomiting in the doorway as soon as I got there.
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New day; new whine...
I wake habitually at 5 or 5:30 a.m. This is/are my hours that are totally to myself (or supposed to be). Usually--now usually---she (my mother) wakes anywhere from 7:30 to 9am.
But here I am enjoying my coffee in my sanctuary (my room). The house is semi-dark and quiet. But, guess what? She decides to wake at 6:22 a.m.! So I'm still quiet thinking maybe she's disoriented and will go back to bed. I hear her rifling in the drawers in the kitchen. "Oh shit", I'm thinking, "what is she looking for now"? Then I hear her come to my bedroom door and in a loud not-very-morning-like voice she calls out in this long, drawn out, "Hello"?
Now, this is where my bone of contention comes in. First of all, she respects nothing about boundaries or privacy for other people. (Incidentally, over the years I have been in counseling about her lack of respect that she's shown). It's all about what she needs at the moment. I'm thinking, "what if I was sleeping or reading or even had 'male company' (not that something like that would happen, but...). But the fact is that nothing that I may be doing is of concern to her.
So I answer (with frustration in my voice), "What Ma, it's 6:30 in the morning"? So I learn that she's looking for her damned diabetic testing strips. Really, I think, now? So I am annoyed and say to her that she could probably wait for at least an
hour and test before breakfast LIKE SHE USUALLY DOES! Then I will get up and find them for her. My quiet morning is now disrupted.
When I was a teenager or pre-teenager, she used to get up before us and make the loudest noise in the kitchen, banging pots and pans and just be loud in absolutely everything she did--even walking. Her feet would pound on the floor like she was angry. It didn't matter if everyone was trying to sleep in the house, she was loud and disrespectful.
I'm tired of excusing her behavior, saying that it's because she's ill and doesn't know what she's doing. Should I just ignore her disrespect? Apparently she has carte blanche when it comes to what she does.
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Tex probably too late to tell you not to go to church with her. Hubby should drive her and drop her off your neck hurts toos much to sit on a hard wooden seat for an hour with nothing to rest your head on. I totally sympathise with you about the church, money and contributions. Mother certainly should be covering ALL her own expences so ask for a check everytime you have to buy stuff for her and that includes contributions towards household bills. The upside is if she gives large amounts to the church and does not have enough to support herself in a NH Medicare will try and get that money back from the church and how will she look then? No more visits from the inspectors I guarentee that?
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