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Don't listen to blueberrybelle. That was rude and uncalled for. What goes around comes around. If he treated you like crap. demanding, and you've never had a relationship with him I have no sympathy for the man. This is coming from a 78 year old woman and I would never expect my kids to do what he's expecting of you. If you don't find some help and distance yourself it's going to get worse and he will take you down with him.
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The real problem as I see it is modern medicine has kept people alive longer than they should be and with the extremely high cost of AL or home care it is causing an already stressed family member dealing with their own aging problems to be placed into a very complex situation. There are many parents who did not “raise” their children or resented the interference the child brought into the parents life or perhaps the child has been on her own since early teens with no help whatsoever from the parent - all true in my case - but that parent reaches a point where there is no option but to take care of them. So resentment is natural and no one should judge another as they may not know the big picture. I just try to get out socially as much as I can and enjoy my evenings with a glass or two of wine. It helps.

PS this site does help tremendously especially when you are at your wits end. It helps to read and realize how much worse it could be or to laugh at some of the comments made by others.
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Even though he’s your father, you don’t want to be his daughter. I don’t know if you ever did father/daughter outings when you were younger? Advice: Take him to adult daycare or a senior Center & tell him you will pick him up at ....(time)...They usually serve lunch there & have activities. Maybe he’ll meet a new lady companion! You are so lucky you don’t have diaper changing on your to do list...& also you’re lucky he can do for himself. & you’re also lucky he doesn’t verbally & physically abuse you & injured you in the process. Look on bright side. To be honest, if “caregiving “ at this level & I wouldn’t really call it caregiving...(it’s just that he’s lonely, bored & wants company) bothers you...then you’re not going to ever be cut out for REAL caregiving when the time comes. Make plans for your future & help him get on with his life...create boundaries & keep them. Hugs 🤗
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You just described my relationship with my mother and father, except I was closer to my father. My mother is exactly like your father and unfortunately I have no advice to give you. All I can say is that I feel exactly like you but I know that in the long run, I'm doing the right thing. As frustrated ask I get with the situation I get the satisfaction of knowing I am doing the best I can do for my mother. Even though I don't particularly like her, I do love and respect her for raising me into the person I am. Even though you don't have a good relationship with your dad, he and your mom obviously did a great job with you!! Be strong and God bless you!!
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I have always said that....I don't like my mother, but I do love her. I would never seek her out to be a friend just because of the person that she is. But I don't want to see her trying to live on her own with the capacities that she has. So, I can relate to your situation. My advice? Stand tall; distance yourself from your father; and don't put any relevance on what people think. Start by correctly assuming that your father is responsible for himself. If he can afford a companion at home with him, then, by all means arrange for one to be with him. Do not fall into the...that's what I'm expected to do...trap. If there are monetary means to take care of your father, you could facilitate that avenue. If not, then there are other options such as Medicaid, etc. YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FATHER'S FUTURE. But, you can help him take care of his own future. Begin with Power of Attorney for financial and/or medical power. If he's not willing to do this now, wait until he no longer has the capabilities to do so. Which may be a while, but his doctor should be a good resource for you. Good luck. You can make this work.
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There will always be people who expect you to do this or that, expect you to think in certain ways, etc. But you have a right to your own thoughts, your own decisions, your own life. Try to work through your beliefs as to your moral responsibilities, what YOU believe, not what others think or say. Facts not emotions. All too often guilt is based on false assumptions and emotional impulses, not on realistic facts.
What is your father doing to broaden his world, to socialize? He has got some responsibilities here. you know. How about senior center or other activities he might be interested in? You are not his "cruise director" unless you want to be and it seems reasonable for him to make an effort to meet his social needs other than through you.
Frankly, I would not feel guilty backing off, even moving away. It is not just about his needs, but about yours as well.  Only fair.
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Blueberrybelle: It's ok to refuse to let a parent devour your life, when parent has options, like senior center, etc.  And you can certainly care about a person without getting overly involved with their everyday concerns.  The love goes both ways.
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WantMyLifeBack: I am so sorry that you're in this phase of your life. Perhaps your father could join a support group or go to a senior center in the afternoons. Remember - this, too, will pass.
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You say your dad is hard of hearing. Does he wear a hearing aid? Poor hearing is very alienating.

My 91yr old dad is very hard of hearing and misses out on so much. He loves playing cards and dominoes but will only play with people who know him and know he doesn't hear well, so I understand my dad's not wanting to go to a senior center and frustrate his playmates and perhaps embarrass himself around people who don't know him.

He doesn't want to fork out thousands of dollars for a hearing aid, so I'm checking into hearing devices advertised in magazines. Surprisingly, there are some out there that have decent ratings. I think his desire to socialize would be greatly improved if he could actually hear well enough to participate in conversations. Not to mention how less frustrating and stressful for me not to have to yell all the time!

My two cents if it might help in this area.
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Hi I recently was caring for my mom. Even though it has been 1 yr and 1/2 since she passed on, I am still effected by it. I could be close with my mom. Now my Dad who is 92 yrs old id in need of help. He is extremely self centered and judgmental.
He always was but now that he can not stay on the go, it is worse. My opinion is that even though your Dad may not like you not being the care giver, it is best for you both for him to have someone else. It is too difficult for it to not build up inside you. So if you stay you may have resentment. If you go have a life then you may feel guilt. You have to decide which one you can live with. Ive decided for my father to have a caregiver 4 hours a day. Even though everyone was in disbelief that I was not going to fulfill the caregiver role, they have adjusted. And my father likes the caregiver. I am unsure if he knows why but I believe it is due to it not being emotional for the caregiver to be with him. Hope you come to a conclusion that feels good for you.
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I just want to tell you to run.
I moved to rural TN by myself. Didn't know a soul. I'm originally a "city girl" from the suburbs of Detroit. I moved to FL with my ex fiance, bc he took a job there, I didn't want to live in FL. I am not a hot weather person.We broke up 2 years after moving there,(he really didn't want to get married. Just didn't want to live alone.)
I bought a foreclosure in rural TN with the plans of staying 2 years to fix it up, spend time alone to grieve the relationship, than sell at a profit and move home. I had never even vacationed in TN. Just bought the house via the internet and FedEx. Did not know a soul here.
Less than a year after moving here, my older alcoholic brother moved 2 blocks away from me here a year later. He was the victim of a violent crime in Detroit, and left with his dog, the clothes on his back and his car. Less than a year later he had 3 strokes and double brain surgery. I have been "trapped" here 16 years taking care of him. He is mean and nasty, and bc he yelled at any physical therapist that tried to help him regain his ability to walk, he cannot walk. I came here when I was 40. Young enough to still have a good life. Now I am 56, have my own health issues, and nobody to help me. The strokes were not his fault. But the alcoholism, Rx drug abuse, and allowing every loser in town live to with him, than expecting me to clean up the mess after they stole his money, sold his belongings, his medications and abused him. And I did. Because "You're closest to him. What can I do. I'm in DC or I'm in MI."
All my hopes and dreams, my health and mental well being are gone. As is my youth. I cry everyday. I just want to go home. This house is a money pit and I'm too sick to go through selling it.
What I would do is try to put your father in assisted living. Hold off on moving till he is in and settled, and you know it is a good place. Contact an elder law attorney to protect any assets he has so the state doesn't take them. Do not end up like me. I wish I knew then what I know now. My life's path was decided for me by an alcoholic and my siblings. Now I am going to cry. I hope that helps.
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I suspect that your father does not know he is critical and negative. He thinks he is just having a conversation and that this is his input and opinion. Also it seems like there are boundary issues. He stomps all over yours and this causes your resentment and then guilt. You might try retraining him like you would a child. Find some carrot and stick plan that would reward him when he is positive and punish him when he is negative. But chances are that he is very unhappy and lonely after losing his wife. He needs friends and activities.

However I was not able to accomplish this with my older sister who was negative and wanted me to hate my parents. I didn't want to hate my parents. I thought the did the best they could for who they were. Yet I was unable to get off the phone with her. My husband said I would be depressed for 3 days after each call. It was impossible to work things out with her. If you didn't agree with her or had a different idea, then you were accused of being mean. One time she said "Are you calling me a lier?" I said "no I just have a different memory of the event". Then she said "I don't think I like being called a lier"!. That finally crossed my line and I said "Well, then stop calling me!" and hung up.

Actually she was divorced and living alone and I didn't completely understand how lonely she was. She said she would even talk to salesmen on the phone for company. Now I am divorced and living alone (no family here). So I talk to people on "Word with Friends" even though I know most of the men are on the take. But I talk to them until they ask for money. That sounds sad, but this is a part of getting older.especially if one has lost their spouse.

My daughter will say "Now I want to tell you something but I don't want you to criticize" This is the boundary she is working on me with. I want information so I cooperate (the carrot). When I am too judgmental (I think I am just offering an opinion) she just clams up (the stick). Being positive is hard to do when one is so isolated. But I am working on it.
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Haven't read the other posts but I remember losing my independence also when my mother passed away. It was just so very hard on my father to lose her. She was his mate for life and he relied on her for everything. After 4 months, my father surprisingly sold their house and arranged to move into a 55+ facility where he wouldn't be so lonely. It's not the same as living with family. As someone who had been living alone myself for awhile, I didn't understand that at the time. I was working and had friends/interest, but many of his had moved away or passed away and they had become isolated during my mother's illness. At some point, I realized I was my father's best friend. He would call and visit at inconvenient times and I could feel my independence disappearing, but he needed me and was there for me for the first 21 years of my life, so I decided I could be there for him. I never moved in with him like he wanted because I wanted him to have the opportunity to meet others and even marry again. But he didn't want to start over and it took me awhile to see he was losing some capabilities. I resisted that idea. I didn't want to become a caregiver. It was a long 15 year journey, but I am so very glad I was there for him. I learned a lot and I changed a lot. He forgot who I was but was always glad to see me and recognized that I was the person that would help him and make things right. It was a bond we never would have had otherwise. It was a bond none of my siblings had. And now, after the journey is done, I am experiencing my own journey of loss and loneliness and I see how very hard he tried not to bother me.
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Everything has been said by others here. Very good advice.

My question: where are all those judgmental friends of your father's when it's time to go shopping, out to lunch, just chatting, etc.? Don't be guilted, or manipulated, by those opinionated people who are there only to criticize. When they've walked a mile in your shoes, maybe you can allow them to shame you, but I doubt that will happen. Your father sounds very meanspirited and petty. There's a possibility he could change his Will whether or not you cater to his every whim. You may one day have to decide to walk away and leave it all to save your sanity and happiness.

If you truly have joint tenancy with right of survivorship for all bank accounts, that should give you financial control that your brother doesn't have. However, your dad can change his Will or Trust any time as long as he is of sound mind. You need a Durable Power of Attorney to manage his finances and living arrangements when he becomes mentally incapacitated.

I can't imagine how difficult your position is now, and looking toward the future. My 98 yr old mother is sweet and undemanding, but she looks to me to fulfilll her social happiness and that's something no one can do for another person. I feel guilty everytime I leave her ALF and her deep sigh follows me out the door. Quilt is always with us.

Good luck to you.
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Thank you for sharing your story. My situation is very similar to yours. I am crying right now. My dad and I have never been close, but I am the daughter who had to step up and be there for him after my mom passed. My mom and I weren't close either. I have a sister who has always been the favorite and she is just as selfish as my parents. I helped my mother and father when my mother was sick. My father looks at me as his fairy godmother. His wish is my command. He is 94 and is competent. Today, I had to set boundaries with him because the stress of his constant needs, like he's out of ice cream, was making me physically ill. He's in and independent living facility and hates it and wants to move to a distant suburb to a house and hire a cook and maid. He wants me to find the house and set everything up for him and then he wants me to disappear! What? My sister and I don't think a move is wise but there's nothing we can do about it. I have been given the task by my father and sister but I am going to make him participate in every aspect. The whole situation hurts me to the core. He is stubborn and always right and will scream and throw a temper tantrum until he gets his way. I have been being "the good daughter" for five years because I love my parents. They were good parents when I was younger. My story is as sad as yours, but you are not alone. I am single too and feel that I am learning parenting skills with my dad. I strive to do what's right for both of us.
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Peace, the fact that your father has set you the task of finding him a house and a staff is beyond ludicrous. Why would you do that?

If he can get it done himself, that's fine.

Otherwise say no and stay away until he's done tantrumimg.
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Peacefulness, how do you feel about your parents?

I am genuinely seeking enlightenment on this point. You say you were never close, not to your mother, not to your father. You say your sister was the favourite, and since you say she is just as selfish as your parents it's clear you think your parents selfish. You say your father thinks of you as his fairy godmother, which implies at least superficial appreciation on his part. You say you spent five years caring for them because you love them. You say they were good parents when you were younger.

Well, now I really don't know what to think. Then it occurred to me: perhaps you don't know what to think, either. Is anyone helping you sort that out, emotionally?

Your father is competent and living in an ILF. He has access to all the services and support he needs, and is capable of asking for them. It won't do him the slightest harm if you "vanish" right now, just for a break, until you've had a chance for your head to stop spinning.
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Peacefulness-I am truly sorry that you are in a similar situation and I feel your pain. Some other people get it that we need to vent and understand that we are not really in control over things with our dads. We may not like having to deal with our fathers and their controlling ways but so much of it comes down to how we were raised and the people we are. Since both of our father's are still competent, advise from other people is not really necessary because our father's are going to do what they want and are not open to listening to any suggestions.

Personally, I would be very careful about the house, the cook and the maid! If your dad is anything like my dad, I can see that whole scenario blowing up in your face, if anything does not meet his expectations. You will be the whipping post if there ends up being anything wrong with the house, the cook or the maid, and you may end up being the one doing the cleaning & cooking. I don't believe that he really wants you to disappear and if he gets the house, he will find all sorts of ways to just take more of your time. Please, be very careful in going forward with his demands about the house!
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Peace -just because he asks you to buy and hire does not mean you have to do it. My mother wanted a change of situation that would not have been good for her, and I said go ahead but I will not help you because I din't think it will be good for you. She didn't like that but I wasn't going to participate in something I believed would not be good for her.

Have you considered just saying "No". Let him have his tantrum. Its time you don't allow yourself to be manipulated by his acting out. Just walk away and tell him you will see him when he is feeling better. ((((((hugs))))
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If you are not prepared to fill that role, then you need to find someone who will. My friend's father remarried and the new wife took care of him through his dementia, but my friend gave up control of his welfare. When my father went into memory care, I had to give up some control to the people I hired to be there 24 hours/day for him. There aren't enough of them to give your loved one 1-on-1 assistance the way you would like to have it done.

Tradeoffs. Do you give up this part of your life as a loving gift or do you regret it later? Can you afford it?
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Trust me, looking back, a caregiver (which is what you are) needs BREAKS. Find someone or activities at the senior center to do, and tell, not ask you’re dad to do stuff.
You must be firm! Quality, not quantity, will be better
for you in the long run and help to break cycle of resentment and guilt. Pretty soon, you start feeling bad really easily. Let us know how things go.
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First, the people who think the situation is so "wonderful" are probably glad it is wonderful that you are doing it and they are not. I'd harden my defenses when people start that nonsense. I mean, what planet are they living on? You are in the reality.

Since your dad is able to care for himself, it is his responsibility, not yours, to provide for a social life.  There is NO obligation for you to be his "cruise director" - he sounds like a man who expects to unload on a woman, to pontificate, to be taken care of socially. How about suggestions about activities he could be a part of at the senior center. Or hanging out with his contemporaries at the local donut shop. He will probably refuse, but you have put the idea out there.  Can you start backing out? Limiting your time spent with dad?
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Peacefulness - you say "I have been given the task by my father and sister but I am going to make him participate in every aspect."

Change your perspective on this to HE will participate in every aspect.

You state he is competent.
You state he lives in an independent living facility.

Mom's facility is a mix of IL, AL and MC. She lives in the MC. BUT, they having parking spaces for those who still drive/have a car. They offer transport to shopping. There are other ways he can get out and buy his own needs, such as the ice cream.

For both you and OP, boundaries. Set reasonable ones and stick to them. Anything that isn't an emergency, either they can deal with it or you say ok and get to it when YOU feel like it! Don't answer every phone call. Visit/help when it is convenient for YOU. If they were invalid or incompetent, that's a different story, but they need to get push back or they will keep pushing!
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Whoa OP... Hope all is OK. I've seen similar with my Dad.....
Its just crazy how they think they can get you to do what they want.......

I almost lost my marriage and my kids etc before I realised. Then I tried to change. I'm not very good at it but I can see what hes trying to do. Its relentless in his attempt to get what he wants.

Just saying - you've got to stop this before it ruins your life...
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