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This is a simplistic answer to what is probably a much more complex situation, but here goes:

She has a self-contained bedroom and bathroom. Next time she has the tantrum, stand her up, one of you on each side, and march her into her bedroom. Say that you will come when she calms down and stops the behavior. Just leave her there. Spill proof water bottle and a packet of biscuits, if you are really worried about her going hungry and thirsty.

If you reckon she will come straight out, put a cup hook on the outside of her door, up high. Tell her to knock when she’s ready. You might add when she provides an apology, but that might be pushing it.

Even trying it once might give you some information about how intentional all this is.
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PenelopePitstop Jun 2022
She goes into her room on her own when she throws the tantrums. Your post made me laugh because that's what she takes with her - water and cookies and biscuits! LOL To be honest, when she was in her room, I didn't mind at all. My husband and I had an enjoyable evening actually. We made chocolate martinis and sat on the patio then watched a movie. It was really nice.
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No is not a four letter word. Seems like a lot of other people in her orbit/family are ok using it. Talk to them and get some tips about what they did they do to remove themselves from her behavior.
If your best friend wrote this, what would you think?
You already know her behavior is wrong, given the logical questions you're posting. Time to step back, take care of yourselves and not be part of her toxic drama.
Why on earth is it ok for her to treat you like this? It is not normal or nice, no need to be a part of it anymore.
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PenelopePitstop Jun 2022
I know you are right. His excuse is "she is 95 years old. She's not going to change." Toxic drama is a good way to put it. :(
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Unless she’s been evaluated by a specialist trained in diagnosis of geriatric behavior/cognition, it may be unfair to both you and her to assume that “She does not have (sic) or dementia, because the behaviors you are observing are certainly well within the dementia umbrella.

You have indicated that what you have been doing when dealing with her current pattern has made you uncomfortable, so it may be a good time to try something else.

Find a specialist, may be a psychiatrist, psychologist, neurologist with geriatric training, and find out more precisely what you are dealing with.

She may benefit from a mild dose of medication, some different management techniques or some other specific recommendations from the specialist.

You will lose nothing by finding out more about what is causing this and you may be relieved of your own reservations about whether you’re doing the best for her, or not.

How she “acts” or what she says, are really not huge issues, if you realize that at her age, her “filters” are probably weakening. You can battle with her, but don’t expect a positive reaction.
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PenelopePitstop Jun 2022
Thank you. I suppose she could be depressed because when she broke her hip, we basically cleaned out her apartment and honestly, most of it was just junk. This sounds bad, but it got thrown out or went to Goodwill. That's another thing they fight about (more so with him than me). She'll remember an old crusty pair of shoes and then get mad and pick an argument with him, next thing she's in her room again at 4:30 for the night. I told him he should have never told her he threw out all that stuff. She had furniture so junky that Goodwill didn't even want it! But, it was HER stuff I guess and she's mad about it. Other than these temper tantrums, she seems to be normal. I mean normal for herself. I think part of it is she simply doesn't have the best personality. She's not the sweet little old lady she shows to the outside world.
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This isn't a MIL problem. She is simply there making use of people who are willing to take her into their home. First one daughter. Now the son.
This is a problem of you and your husband. You need now to sit together and decide what you want your relationship to be. Is this a marriage of the two of you, or is this three? Are there no boundaries set in which you and your husband have privacy or expectations of same?
You and hubby should likely see a counselor together to come up with the expectations. At this rate of living off the family one at a time MIL will outlast every one of you.
I myself would be gone already, into my own apartment. I cannot imagine what led you and your husband to invite this woman into your lives, but were I to be told by her that I loved the puppy better I would instantly tell her "Oh, you BETCHA".
You asked your MIL to live with you. And now there she is.
You apparently set no limits on this.
She gets mail there. She is a tenant whether she pays rent or not.
This is where she lives.
Now it is up to you and husband to get together and discuss your own expectations for your home, your marriage, your lives together. If he were to say MIL stays, then I would be gone. Division of assets could begin tomorrow.
Up to you. Your choice for your life. You have already made a whole LOT of decisions with very little thought or planning, and you just told us where THAT has got you. So time to do it differently now.
If you wish to. For myself I would already have my bags packs and the Lyft called.
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PenelopePitstop Jun 2022
LOL, well, it's not worth leaving my husband over. But, I will say this, he goes out of town a lot for work leaving me with her. I told him that's going to stop. I'm helping him with her a lot already, but I am not her sole care giver.

I think we just felt like it was the right thing to do. Up until she broke her hip, she had her own apartment, but there is no way she could live on her own. She can go to the bathroom herself, get a drink of water, grab some snacks that are finger foods - no actual food preparation, and that's about it. We didn't know what else to do with her. Even though she is unpleasant, nothing is wrong with her mind, considering... we think an assisted living place would kill her for sure. That's the other thing, I know this is morbid, but it can't be for much longer - she's 95!
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