Mom lives with myself and my husband. She loses money that she gets out of the bank by other family members taking her to the bank. This happens every week. Most of the time we don't even know she has the money, much less how much. When she can't find the money she accuses us of stealing the money and gets very angry. The same thing happens with her losing her debit card. She does not want us to keep these items for her. She keeps saying she can handle it. Should we continue to let her keep the money and card in her possession or should we keep them for her? It is nerve wreaking when she loses it and the house is turned upside down.
Another smart practice-- never let the courts appoint a caretaker-- most of them are just as human as the regular thieves-- and will more than often steal when given the chance--
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Best advice-- take away the wallet and check book. And never give any money to them-- if you go shopping-- with your demented loved one-- you pay every time. The old life is passed away-- your loved one is a new creation. Old never mixes with new,,, put away the old life-- it is gone. Good luck. Oh-- rule number one-- when faced with "situations"-- always change the subject to a more important issue. -- Expl-- " Where is that $5 bill I set here? -- Mom-- just a minute-- your daughter wants to know if you are still going out to eat with us tomorrow-- and oh-- did you want your favorite dessert ? " Just change the subject. You are dealing with someone who cannot handle two trains of thought. Use your head. Don't let her demons beat you over yours.
Dad was money obsessed and always worried about money (I always swore he cried every time he parted with a nickel). I was surprised when Mom gave me the check book - she was still able to balance the checkbook, I guess she was tired of messing with it. This was while they were still in independent living. Because dad fell a lot (stokes in the balance center of his brain - who knew), they moved to A/L but a couple of years later my dad who was 90 and tired of living got bad enough to get moved to the SNF. I always made sure they had cash to take care of incidentals and they had credit cards.
Well of course when dad moved to the SNF part of the community he no longer needed money or credit cards. However, he was upset because he had no money, so at the beginning mom would put a few singles in his dresser underneath some clothing and tell him where it was. Well as he was now in hospice they took him off all his meds except the ones for keeping him comfortable - so he always forgot where the money was. Mom finally took the money back.
One time dad wanted some money and I asked what he needed it for and he said his meals, Well dad your rent covers your meals also. Really? Yes they include all your meals.
On another visit he needed $25 that he needed to pay some woman for something she bought him - boy was he upset - finally I told, Dad I sent her a check this morning, it's all taken care of.
Another time the phone rang at 9pm - I picked it up resigned because I knew the SNF was calling to say he fell - again! But no, it was Dad, he was freaking out because he needed $660 - now! Finally I calmed him down and explained it was late and I couldn't possibly get that much money at this time of night and I promised I would bring the money first thing in the morning. He was happy and I prayed he wouldn't remember the conversation from the night before - and no he did not.
He always claimed mom was out spending all their money; spending it on her boyfriends ?? - which of course she did not do on boyfriends she did not have. - Ah - good times!
Dad died about a year and half ago. I kind of miss our money discussions - It makes me smile and laugh to remember them.
The not so funny discussion dad and I had was when mom and dad gave me the POA. He and I were in the waiting room of his DR. He was worried that I'd take their money for myself; "money does funny things to people" - that of course really ticked me off. I told mom that if that was how he felt about it, I'd refuse to be POA and when the time came he would be appointed a guardian - which would cost him money. Well it worked out in the end. Mom is still living - in lock down and both of us are counting down the days when we have physical contact again.
I'm sorry about the upset to your household. Is she at the point where she wouldn't tell the difference between real money and monopoly money or play money. If so, keep some somewhere in her room and pull it our when she can't find the money she took out of the bank and say here it is. If not, keep some of her money in the house and pull it out when she can't find what she did with hers.
Good Luck and may God bless you all.
1. are the family members who regularly take her to the bank getting a cut of the withdrawal? Perhaps that's a reason they are so amenible to the errand. Maybe they should be responsible for giving you the receipt from the bank. This would help you know how much money your mother has.
2. whenshe accuses you of stealing --act the way you would if she were 4 years old. Don't engage, leave the room, use your headphones. She wants interaction with you even if it's bad interaction. When she comes home from the bank maybe she could make piles of her cash to show you. Show and tell.
3. Of course she says she can handle the $ and the debit card. It's her way of holding on to her old life when she WAS in control. She's not so much mad as frustrated and mad at herself. What does she buy with her debit card? Find a NICE box for her to put her valuables in. Get her into the habit of putting her money and CC in it.
4. Would you let a 4 year old have access to his piggy bank at all times? No, of course not. You two are changing roles and it's not fun for each of you. But stick to your guns.
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If she doesn’t spend it, tell her that you went to the bank for her.
The fake money is cheap. It’s $20 bills just like an atm stop!
I told my uncle he may has well roll his window down and throw the money out as he is driving home. They just don't get it. After a couple of years of this argument, I finally took my moms purse that had dirty underwear, a fork, tweezers, some socks and an old birthday card in it and removed any debit cards or money. She doesn't even remember to ask about it now.
This is so hard to deal with....the accusations, the mistrust, the constant looking. I don't know your moms personality or the extent of her dementia, but would fake money or just a couple of ones in a wallet suffice? Maybe several wallets in various hidden spots like a dresser or under a couch cushion? When she asks
about it, just say oh I know where you hid that, check under the couch cushion.
When my mom is on a rant or repeat, I try to drastically change the subject by asking her a question. Mom, where would you like me to put these towels? Mom do you use vegetable oil or olive oil when making that cake? etc...