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You have two problems:

1) A relationship problem with a man who is dictating the future of YOUR life.
2) A financial problem when and if this all goes pear-shaped, you lose the money you have saved so far, and end up with a large debt on a foreclosed mortgage.

1) Go together for relationship counseling. Talking to a neutral third party should at least make you more aware of how deep the BF’s ‘decisions’ go.
2) See a lawyer about the property financial arrangements. The comments here about the risks are probably correct, but you will get a clearer picture (and take more notice) with legal advice.

Move ASAP on this. Postpone closing on the house. You are not forced to go ahead, and the damages from backing out may be far less than the financial risks you run if you get further into this. It’s very hard emotionally to change your mind, but it really is important here.

Best wishes, Margaret
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Margaret…We are seeing a real estate lawyer and doing the quit claim and working on our wills to make sure everything is covered, all at the same time.

to anyone else who is keeping op with this thread…..
I appreciate those who are trying to help and have constructive info and questions for me that are meant to then give informed advice having all the variables that are part of the situation known. I’m sorry if so many people felt the need to comment on my posts and ask questions and it made this so long but for those who are sick of reading this thread, just quit, you’re not being forced to comment or read and if you’re just complaining about something for no reason other than your own amusement as you said, just quit, I won’t be offended.
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I just caught the part about the 15 YO.. everytime I read something on this thread I get more confused!
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AlvaDeer Feb 2022
With nearly 100 comments on this thread, I think Notaslave has given us a run for our money and a good deal of merriment. I however now cannot catch up on her responses because they are buried in four pages of rather questionable materials. I appreciate that we have another drop in what I call the water torture of it all. I am hoping for a whole new thread. In fact, boring as Sister Wives has become I am hoping for a whole new Reality Show! Because Inquiring Minds wants to know. Whose name will be on the deed? Who will pay the mortgage? Whose family will move in next? And where did the 35,000 end up?
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So, notaslavetomil, how about solving your housing issues this way;

Your son gives up the privilege of having the whole downstairs by himself. From now on he's in that third bedroom upstairs and she's down there. Make it clear he has to pay for aides to lift her, toilet her and entertain her. You will not have anything to do with her whatsoever.

Meanwhile, you can expect the same attitude for your own offspring. The 15-year-old is to be informed that on his 18th birthday or high school graduation, whichever comes last, he is to vacate the room so that you can have it for either Yhim or this daughter when she has palpitations.

If this sounds ludicrous, it is on both sides. You made it clear you don't care for MIL even beyond having to do the caregiving; you don't want to have a "family" relationship with his dependent. Yet you have injected at least one and want to make room for up to two and he's supposed to be fine with it.

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Sighopinion Feb 2022
Exactly, how is this remotely fair to the boyfriend? It should be no family outside of the young child are allowed to stay or they both accommodate their dependents. Way she frames the older child, it is unlikely it would be a temporary placement. In theory what if her younger child never wants to live home, does she expect the BF to support both her children?
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You make a good case for not going through with the house purchase.

Please get your boyfriend to see a counsellor with you about his mom and her health issues. If you can't support his decision to allow his mom to move in with you, you will probably have problems supporting his other decisions in your - hopefully soon - marriage.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Peggy…
the 2nd and 3rd bedrooms are both downstairs, my son doesn’t have the bottom floor all to himself and he would be sharing the bathroom with her as well. And my BF is MORE than welcome to have all 3 of his kids live here and that is what we AGREED to before moving in together and before buying this house. He doesn’t support me or my son financially and if people would read everything that has been posted before going off on me then you would know this makes no sense. My issue is that I can’t and won’t take care of his 84 yo mother because I PHYSICALLY CANT and it’s not my responsibility to just because he wanted to move her in our house without consulting me and expect me to take care of her when she’s too much for me to handle and not my responsibility. I take care of my kid, I take care of myself, I pay for myself and my kid. I paid for the down payment and he was only going to make the mortgage payments for the new house for the next 2 years to bring us even with our monetary contribution to the house. He doesn’t own me or my time simply because I’m his GF and live in the same house. The point is that caring for a adult that’s going to be immobile soon is not easy or anywhere near the same as living with and caring for children that are all in high school. His moms care is not responsibility and if he wants to physically and financially take care of her, he can, howeve, he makes that happen, whether with money or by staying home and taking care of her himself. But it’s not my job simply because I’m a women and I’m home partime. I have my own back issues and I can’t physically help her out of a chair, much less anything else. My child doesn’t need that kind of physical care and neither do his children (who could all live here and camp out in the basement for all I care.) But his mother is a different story. She does have money to stay elsewhere, if he’d make or convince her that she had to use it basically because he won’t pay for her stuff when she has the funds to do so. . She could stay in a facility that would care for her safely and she doesn’t need to just be tossed onto my plate as a new job. He WAS very naively, just assuming that I could take care of all her needs, not realizing or thinking through what they were and how long she’d need to be cared for. But he has never even been around elderly people before and has no idea what it takes. He realizes NOW that it’s too much for me, not my responsibility and not just an easy way to solve his moms problems with money. when all he needs to do is just plan for her care somewhere else. What I hear you saying is that if I worked full time and he didn’t, but he had an injury and was home all day because he couldn’t work, (but he paid for all his bills and I wasn’t supporting him in any way) , that I too should be able to say, hey, my mom can’t take care of herself and she spent all her saving and won’t use the money she has to support herself, so now you have to take care of MY MOM 24-7 cause I’m moving her into the room downstairs that she can’t walk up from by herself….you have to help her with bathing, toileting, walking and she’s twice your size, OH and I don’t care what you think, you live here so just do it?
Not in any world is that ok. He is not my servant and I am not his. He has his responsibilities and I have mine and no one can dictate what you do 24/7z
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Dear OP, your last post shows that you have worked out how to deal with this. Well done, and I (plus anyone else who cares), hope that it continues to go well.

Just ignore anyone who is judging your relationship, which you are obviously capable of dealing with yourself. The family arrangements with BF are unusual, but you both are using your own knowledge, your own principles, and appropriate professional assistance, to sort it out and keep it safe. Stick to it! Yours, Margaret
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I think you should make it clear that you are not happy with the situation and if he won’t budge I’m afraid it’s time to split I’m 60 and wouldn’t want to care for the elderly I have a mother at 82 and just couldn’t have her living with me so can’t imagine a young person wanting to do this believe me it will ruin your relationship
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Run. Turn and run while you can. It’s obvious that you have looked ahead and considered your possible future and see that it won’t be a good future under these conditions. Turn and run. If the hair is standing up on the back of your neck, there’s a good reason!
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Sounds like you've already answered your own question. Your boyfriend's mom moving in is a hard NO. Period. There's your answer.

Also, let me say this - don't move in with someone you're not married to!! It's not a good thing for you, your kids, him, or his kids. My objective opinion is that you have a whole host of problems and aggravations with him & the entire situation and you haven't even moved in together yet. If you are not on the same page now (financially, parenting style, major decisions about his mother) it's only going to get worse down the road.

Save yourself the grief, keep your money and put it on a house for just for your kids. Or continue to rent He can visit whenever the wants!

Also, what is his financial situation? Why is he not splitting the down payment with you? Agreeing to pay the mortgage payments and actually doing so are two different things. If you do end up moving in with this guy I certainly would not put the house in both of your names. Not without being married.

No judgment here, just looking out for you as I see this as a train wreck in the making.
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Thing hard about what lies ahead. Is your boyfriend a "moma's boy?" It sounds like you both purchased the house. You have not given yourself many alternatives. Get connected with a local social worker to explain the situation. Perhaps they can connect you with a pro bono attorney who can help you with your legal situation with the house and also advise you on what care is available for your boyfriend's Mom through Medicare/Medicaid.
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Great boyfriend you have. Getting tangled up with him financially and everyone living together (even without the mother) looks like a bad and unpleasant life at best. It’s likely to be a nightmare. To be blunt, it sounds like you are desperate to be with a partner so you settled for him.
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Sarah3 Feb 2022
I agree that the purchase of the house with some of the factors involved could be messy abd she needs to go over all the details of it or cancel, but an assumption that the reason she’s with him is bc she’s desperate is hurtful and probably isn’t the case as people usually get into relationships for multiple reasons.
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Don't do it. Any of it. You already doubt that BF will follow through with mortgage payments, and then moving his mother in when basically it is your house. It may be hard to break up, but it could be harder to later to get out of a big emotional and costly mess.
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You only get one mother. As a son who lost his mother at age 63 to cancer , any woman that wouldn't let my mother in my house for whatever reason, is not a woman for me. Nursing homes are horrible, good ones are very expensive. People mistreat the elderly and the sick all the time. Sounds like he loves his mother dearly amd it means alot to him, so if you love him you have to carry the burden with him. Although he cannot make you do everything because that is his mother. He would figure out a game plan on the type of care she needs. Some Medicare programs in certain states offer assistance with a care taker. And if your out of work and your up to it, you can be her caretaker and get paid to do it. Depending on her issues of course due to your back issues. So if she'll be in the basement that means you can still have your own life. When it gets to the point where she needs 24 hour assistance then you can put her in a nursing facility that is a good one- do your research first! But tell your bf that your feeling overwhelmed and I'm sure you can work it out.
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Riverdale Feb 2022
Sorry you lost your mother at such an early age. I knew someone who passed away last year at 61. She was in incredible shape, taught challenging exercise classes until she was diagnosed with a rare form of very aggressive ovarian cancer and was gone in 5 months despite seeking the most advanced treatment available from 2 very respected cancer centers in the country. She did not live to see either of her two children marry or have grandchildren which she so wanted. Fate can be cruel and unforgiving.

Your position in this situation is the polar opposite of most. The OP has clearly stated she can not physically care for her BF's mother no matter what level of the house she is on. There is no warmth between the two. The mother requires care. How do you know the son will figure it all out when more care is needed? He has shown alot of behavior that is far from ideal in many ways including their relationship meaning that of the OP and himself. It seems far from ideal now. How is moving his mother in going to help any of that. The mother chose to take a reverse mortgage and then spent the money unwisely. SHE HAS NO INTEREST IN BEING HER CARETAKER. Why do you state that as a possibility?

She has been fortunate to receive the advice of so many. I am not including myself. The overwhelming opinions have been for her to not move forward financially, emotionally and realistically with the purchase of this house with all the circumstances involved.
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I hate to tell you but you need to CANCEL the closing on this house and get away while you can. You are walking into a MESS. You are not married to this man, yet, as you say. There are so many problems here, why would you willingly enter into this? If you do this and he does move his mother in (and it sounds like that’s exactly what would happen) what’s your recourse? You have none. He doesn’t even consider your wishes? Why would you do this??? You say he’s lazy and have traits like his mother? Again, why would you walk into this trap?
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My mother was living with us for 3 months and it was awful. during her stay, my husband said his mother was also in need of care and she was moving in. I looked at him and said do you want to kill me. Is that the plan? He says to me I’ll take care of her, I said you are never home. How is that going to happen?
my mil was upset with that and took me off her will. Okay, I was upset by that, but it would have been far worse having her live with me.

your boyfriend has no idea what it’s like caring to a elderly person. You need to be happy too.
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Can you back out of purchasing that house? When his name is on that house he has every right to move whoever he wants in. He can actually move you out by saying you are causing problems and you would be asked to leave. DON'T MOVE INTO THAT HOUSE WITH HIM CANCEL THE HOUSE. Take your money and put it away for you not us. You are getting yourself into a hole where you won't be able to come out of if you do this. Are you prepared to lose your $35K when he can't pay for the mortgage? Is he worth it?

Prayers that you don't get involved with him in this house because its not worth it. If he hasn't put anything to the down payment you are going to lose in the long run because in the end he may have paid more than your down payment and if that happens it sounds like he will use it against you.

MY ADVICE IS DON'T MOVE IN CANCEL BUYING THE HOUSE.
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I don't think you should buy a house with this boyfriend. It is barely a relationship with his work hours, let alone using you to help his mother. I'm sorry to see this potential disaster, and I would move away from this man. You deserve better, both mentally and to save your injured back.
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Reschedule that closing. A red flag the size of the those giant flags over a car dealership just ran up the pole. But, you've had other red flags and STILL? Tornado "is a comin", its in your yard, there's a shelter but you figure you'll watch and hope for the best. You said he's lazy, you're using 35k of your money for the house down payment, he is putting down NOTHING!! Let me tell you, making the mortgage payments is a promise of future performance...it's rent to him...and you already said he's LAZY! Now he knows you are not keen on this idea of MIL moving in. Let me tell you something, and you read very, very carefully and reread, this isn't a disagreement, it's a plan...HIS plan and he's getting a house with no down payment for him and his mother for a future event....YOU GIVING UP AND MOVING OUT. Delay that closing if you have to come up with another excuse to give you time to think clearly. Your money got tied up, you found out the house is haunted......think about just cancelling. That's my outside looking in opinion. This is a troubling situation and I had a bad, BAD feeling about this. If there are any other men on this site, I can say for all of the HONEST one's we'd never do this to a future bride. You're out the the money, he's basically paying rent but will own HALF the property. What a deal.....for him and his mother. It reads like something setting up for a Discovery ID episode !!
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Rick10 Feb 2022
If you are "heck bent" on doing this, you can find out very quickly what his intent long term is. Tell him you will close on the house but only in your name. If he survives you after marriage, will it to him. If you survive him, it was yours anyway. BUT and HERE IS A BIG BUT.....close in your name BEFORE you marry. If he hangs around and makes the payments, he's getting it if you go first. He's gotta pay rent somewhere right? No free rides. If he goes first, well, you know, he can't take his rent money with him. If he objects to this, he's planning a scam and it's up to you to decide on marring a lazy, scheming, his-way-or-the-highway, no count, broke, immature looking for a candy momma, momma's boy. "Don't make me come down there!!!"
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Wow!! Don't buy the house with him. This is a win win situation for him, NOT for you.
Can he move in with her? And pay her mortgage? Just a thought.
Hold on to your money for you and your son.
Best wishes
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Your situation is nothing but red flags! If I have read your post correctly, you are soon to close on a home purchase, (using your money) to a man you have no legal connection, and he is already stipulating the house rules. That should wake you up. Even if he is not on the mortgage but makes the monthly payments, should the relationship fail you will need a lawyer to get him out. Add his elderly mother and YOU (and your son) will be the ones leaving.
Please reconsider the situation, the relationship, and realize you are not his priority. You will be a caretaker until you've had enough and leave, without $35,000 to provide for you and your son's welfare. Your son should be your priority, not a boyfriend looking to gain a babysitter for his mother and a roof over his head. If you must go ahead with the home purchase, put the brake on his moving in. Let him rent an apartment and assume the responsibility for his mother. That will be the only way he will learn the immense requirements, physically and financially. You need to gain clarity on this situation, which is doomed to fail. Stop defending yourself and raise your standards! You and your son deserve better.
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I feel like you are going to regret this decision. You have outlined a scenario that benefits your boyfriend and his Mother. It is not to late to back out of buying the house. He can go live with his Mom and you can find a place for you and your daughter even if it means renting.

if things are tough now wait a few years into this
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You need to back out of purchasing the house with him. You are not married. You don't have to do this. If he moves her in, I promise you, you will be miserable and you will be the care taker of his mother.

If it were me, I would focus on getting a place that could accommodate me and my children. Sounds like he needs to get a place to accommodate him and his mother.

Tell him you're backing out of buying the home because this is not the direction you want to go.
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Move out. Let him hire someone to help. Take it from there. You just got out of a bad divorce. How bad could the other guy have been if this is better? Sweetie, you need some me time to figure out why you would marry someone who dictates to you what's is and isn't going to happen. Even without the grandma moving in, it sounds like a big red flag.
Please help yourself or you may find yourself divorced again down the line. You need someone who will work side by side with you, not someone who can walk on you. Didn't mean to get so personal, but many of us older ladies have been there done that and wish we could redo some of our lifechanging mistakes. Another thing....without marriage, you have NOTHING financial to lean on if it all falls apart. He can walk away anytime, sell the house and gain. You stand to do nothing but lose in this situation. Make your child your priority. Good luck and please find a confidant to help you.
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Oh my goodness, please stop your plans to enter into a legal contract with someone, who you describe as being disrespectful and lazy, and who doesn’t take into consideration your side of this situation. Take it as a sign of what lies ahead, and put your money down on a home of your own. Reread your post; your answer is there in black and white. Get out of this relationship before it is further complicated. Think about the example that entering into this venture would set for your children. Also think about what kind of life this would make for your children.

If you had a dear friend who wrote a post like yours, what would you tell that friend? Be a friend to yourself and be thankful this came to light before your closing date.
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You should give her the downstairs room and take the opportunity to get to know her and help her out, your daughter can rent a room somewhere as shes 20 years old already and capable of working. Its a 3 bedroom house and your boyfriend is paying the mortgage so you and your son have a roof, the mortgage payment will surpass your 35,000 in a few years time, you can get in home care and utilize adult day care, get paid as a caregiver and work on your back by not having to work full time. Be kind and gracious always do things with no regret and your boyfriend will be grateful.

Good Luck.
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Barbarasfriend Feb 2022
Sorry, you may mean well but this is terrible advice. Her boyfriend sounds like a loser and user. I would say get out asap.
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For $35,000 you can Buy a tiny home . They have them in Austin , Texas and pay off the rest of the balance yourself . Check out Facebook and Google tiny Homes . What are you going to do when you buy the home and the mother arrives ? Sleep on the Floor ? If someone made me sleep on the floor that would be a deal breaker .
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Red flags are everywhere in this relationship, and this is not a good way to start a new relationship. You mentioned that you are the one putting the down payment on the house you are buying. DO NOT put his name on the Deed of this property if you are not married to him. DO NOT comingle your money with him if you are not married. Whatever you own before you marry him is yours free and clear. If you put his name on any of your finances before you marry him it will then become community property and he will claim half of everything you own. Once you are married to him, you and he can then have new bank accounts, etc. which will then become community property.

Please take my advice and keep everything you own separately from this relationship before you marry him this way you are going to save yourself from further anguish down the line.
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Theres no way this guy should get with some one who has a bad back, cant work and has kids that he has to provide a roof for that are not even his own. And then has to possibly take care of a 20 year old that should not be coming back to the nest. I hope this man runs for the hills.
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I get the idea that you BF is not hearing you. I get that because your posts are so long and you take the time to explain all the reasons that it is not good for you to have his mother move in with you. You haven't even closed on the house and it's already starting. He WILL move her in with you. You putting down the down payment and you being there - for him- this is the answer. This is his way of making his mom happy.
The reality is that without your money and time, he could not do this. This is not the life you want, so don't step right into it.
He's not listening to you.
You don't have to justify to anyone why you don't want this. Look how much stress you already have over it.
This is how he handles a complex situation. He doesn't concern himself with your feelings or desires. He is ignoring those things.
You are a not a bad person to not want to do this.
You went into the deal with the hopes and dreams of doing this together. He's already taking over.
The handwriting is on the wall. Back out now and feel bad. Back out later and feel worse.
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You need to rethink this purchase and your relationship for that matter. I think this may have been his plan all along. Don’t set yourself up. Now I will just mind rest of my business. Don’t do it!
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You need to put the brakes on this now and sit down and realize there are too many Red Flags!!! Stand up and follow your intuition before it’s too late.
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