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Put a little cat dropping in his slippers.
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Ahmijoy Dec 2018
And make him hate the cats even more?
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I’m kinda on SafetySarahs wavelength.
Its not the cats per se. The cats = you.
If you and those pussies were gone, his life would be just great.
It would be just him and his son in his home.

I think here could be the tipping point for your marriage. On just Whose side IF to came down to the nut cut, would hubs take? If you said to hubs that it was a mistake to move there and you want to find a new home or apt for just you & hubs, would hubs do it?
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Gabbygirl Dec 2018
Without any doubt in my mind or heart, I know my husband would take my side in that argument. When his father was hospitalized last year he was staying down with his parents (his mom was still living) full time and it was difficult on both of us being apart. If it came down to it, it would really be a question of what to do with his dad. Use his money to hire caregivers for him at home or place him in a facility? Living separately has never been an option on the table for either of us. We are a united front both with his dad and my mother. More than likely the conversation would be... I'm not asking my wife to leave. It's both of us or neither of us. End of story.
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I agree. I wouldn't start making excuses for him that this is how he interacts with animals like some have said. I don't think animals like being cornered and have to have a safe room. That's ridiculous.

If this is how he interacts with animals then he shouldn't be around them, own them, period.
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Isthisrealyreal Dec 2018
Like some have said, people interact differently with animals and he is not hurting them, he is in his poor way trying to get them to play. But not everyone plays as nice as others.

Animals feed off of their humans vibes, that's the hard thing to get over, not feeding the behaviors by being upset, it only increases it. As the posters stated.
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“Your cats are terrified of him”. That shows this isn’t just roughhousing that the animals enjoy...this is perverse behavior. There are ways to treat animals...some ways are not just different, but wrong. This is one of them. I would not feel safe allowing my cats around him. Cornering a cat to the extent your husband had to “distract him” so you could nab and remove the cat? That is just bizarre behavior. And what would happen if you're not there and he's mean to it like this? What if the cat lashes out and scratches or bites him, which is very possible. What would he do to it? Would he still think it’s funny, or would he kick it across the room, or worse? I don’t care what his motives are for this behavior, you and your husband need to put a stop to it in no uncertain terms, and if you can’t I’d make other arrangements. For him.
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Gabbygirl Dec 2018
Thank you, rocketjcat. Actually, that has been my exact concern. What does he do when we're not there (which is not often)? My husband stays home with him all day. Sometimes we have errands to run, or we'll go out to dinner by ourselves. It's usually only for an hour. At the moment, we're talking about setting up cameras in the house. I have granny cams in my mother's apartment (at her doctor's request) to check on her throughout the day. We may do the same set up to see what's going on when we're not there.

I do fear that his aggressiveness could turn to a kick, or him even just opening the back door and turning them loose.

I agree, this has to stop. The hubs has agreed to schedule him for an evaluation for dementia. Perhaps there is something going on medically we're not aware of that is contributing to the inappropriate behavior. We have to do something, though.
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I don't think this is any reflection on his feelings for you. Some people play rough with their animals.

That he says hes a stupid old man is his response to being told how to treat the cats. He has probably always treated his animals more aggressively than others. It is only inappropriate because the cats aren't his and they don't all know one another well enough to play so rough.

My husband and our shepherd box, some people would find the behavior horrific, but she starts it most of the time and gives as good as she gets. I don't want anyone else playing this way with her, she wouldn't know how to take it from someone else.

Is it possible to get him his own kitty that he can train to play with him? He's not hurting them, just scaring them and I know they are your fur babies, so don't mess with them.

It has to be difficult to be corrected for your behavior when you don't see anything wrong with it. He may feel like he is being accused of not knowing how to treat a cat and in reality we all treat our animals differently, doesn't mean it's wrong or inappropriate, just different.

I would seriously consider getting him his very own and then letting him treat it how he wants as long as he's not hurting it. Cats have 20 little claws to correct behaviors they don't like, that's not including a mouth full of sharp pins to help get the message across.

I hope you find a solution that works for all, I really would not take his treatment as a passive aggressive strike at you.
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I'm a huge cat lover..........animal lover in general. I'm afraid if it were me dealing with this I'd put him out of the house. Sorry, but when someone's dementia or whatever starts making them a menace to animals or any living thing, out they should go. Don't pass go, don't collect a thousand dollars. Sorry, don't mean to sound unsympathetic. I am. But there is a limit to what I'd put up with.

I think you should get him declared unfit and begin letting him know that if it's him or the cats, he is the one that should leave.
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Isthisrealyreal Dec 2018
Its his house, you can't make him leave because his behavior is aggressive towards the cats. He's not hurting them, just scaring them by playing to rough.

I think his motive is to play, not bully. He just doesn't know how to go about it with strange cats.
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Your FIL's behavior with your cats spooks me; I knew someone whose 3 year old acted like that with her cat, and then killed it.... (3 year old!)
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Chestershaba3 Dec 2018
God that's horrible! I hope the parents and authorities are dealing w that girl this is how serial killers start!
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Another narrative (take or leave it): It may not be YOU he hates, but the situation. He can't get directly angry with you and hubs, because you seem so concerned and want to help... but the resentment has to go somewhere. He refers to himself as a stupid old man because he thinks that YOU believe that he's stupid. It's very hard for him to admit to himself that he's failing and making poor decisions. He may be trying to drive you away by attacking you through your pets.
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I have pets and if anyone abused them I would be showing the person the door.

And yes I did tell a guest to leave my house when they behaved inappropriately with my cats. I also reprimanded my late stepdad’s daughter when she got uppity with Mum’s dog.
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MountainMoose Dec 2018
I adamantly agree. If my mom had terrorized my dogs and refused to stop when I moved into her house for the sole purpose of caring for her, I'd move out. Period. If there was no one else to care for her then there'd be no choice for her to go to a nursing home.
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I think your FIL doesn't like you, so he's bullying your cats to piss you off. He's a bully. A bully only backs down when you stand up to him and bully him back. That's how you make him stop.
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Gabbygirl Dec 2018
I never got the impression over the years that he didn't like me. But perhaps you are right. There might be some resentment of us moving in, even if we are there to help him. I've been respectful to him since it is his home. But maybe I need to adjust that method. I can try being more assertive in my interactions with him. Thanks for the advice.
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Curious if your FIL's late cat liked being chased/bully like what he is doing with your cats. If yes, your Dad needs to realize that not all cats will react in the same way.

Example, at my home when the door bell rings, one cat nose dives under the bed... the other cat will go to the front door and reach up trying to open the storm door. Had the FedEx driver laughing when he was delivering a Chewy box.

Do the cats have a hiding place when Dad starts to act up? They need to have a "safe place". Dad probably won't change his ways, as he thinks the cats enjoy him doing that. Stress can cause high blood pressure in cats, so the next time they are at the Vet ask him/her to check their blood pressure.
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Gabbygirl Dec 2018
Yes, kitties have a couple of hiding spots. Last night he had one cornered though with no escape route. The hubs engaged his dad and I got the cat out of there and let it go into the bedroom where she hides. They feel safe in our bedroom only. It's their home base.

The cat he had was an indoor/outdoor cat. He was a kitten when my husband brought it home to them, so probably more fun. Ours are 6, and while they still play they are not as playful or rambunctious as a kitten. That cat did get older though. Oddly, he was recently complaining that the cats were growling outside his door, but I explained that one of our cats gets seriously into her play when tossing a toy around and does growl ... at the toy, not the door. We do not let our cats outdoors. Its just healthier and safer for them.

I'll have to ask about the BP issue.
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