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Maybe you need a little "harshness", you have been given many suggestions.

Yet you take no action. You will be coming up on year soon.

This is something that could have been nipped in the bud a long time ago.

There are posts on here that are very sad and tragic, I know some of them were mine. This is an easy one compared to many situations on here, and yet you do nothing about it.
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Harshness when a person is hurting is never helpful.
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Good Lord, you started this thread in May 2014, hello it is Feb 2015.

I think you're one of these types who isn't happy unless they have drama going on.

I haven't read all the comments as there are too many, but someone who allows this to go on for so long, must secretly enjoy the attention.
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Yeah, you STILL don't get it. Sorry. After all of this, you still feel a need to explain yourself to the son "Next step is to talk to the son again and let him know how grieving it has been. He may not have a clue." PLEASE!! He doesn't have a clue? Of COURSE he has a clue! All of the neighbors have a clue, her children have a clue (particularly the ones who don't visit), everyone has a clue. And evidently everyone but you has figured out how to get her out of their lives.

I'd send a registered letter (signature required) from your attorney's office that said, "Do not call, do not step foot on our property. Failure to follow these instructions will result in legal action." And then follow through with a temporary restraining order if she comes over or calls any more.

After reading your longer post, I think a part of you was trying to have a relationship with her that is better than your relationship with your equally demanding mother. But she's not your mother. And you don't have to have any relationship with her at all. She's toxic. Get her out of your life.
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One other thought for you and then I'll bite my tongue....you wrote "I have studied how to be more assertive and I really was when I first told the 84 year old woman that she was being too much for me."

No. Just no. "you are being too much for me" is NOT assertive. " I can only talk with you for a one minute and only once a day if it is not an emergency" or "I cannot spend any more time with you, and you have to leave here and go home NOW" is a little more assertive still. "STOP RINGING MY DOORBELL AND LEAVE ME ALONE OR I WILL HAVE TO CALL THE POLICE" is truly assertive. Slapping her in the face would be aggressive and you probalby should not go that far.
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"A new place is not free from neighbors that are just as bad"

Well, this is one of those situations where a geographic cure might just work - your chances or finding someone else so far "out there" as this one are not that high. She really is extraordinary, unless you are exaggerating.

"My 84 year old neighbor is NOT my grandmother"
Yep. She is also not your responsibility, and if anyone could help her, you are not the one. Let's face it, you find her absolutely hateful! And you have to keep telling us just how out there and just how hateful she is, because otherwise you feel so bad about hating to deal with her! Hate is a very uncomfortable emotion for a normally compassionate and easygoing person. This woman needs love and care, sure, but you ***legitimately*** can't stand her and supplying her with love and care in a non-emergency situation is NOT something you are legitimately called on to do. Somebody thoroughly trained to do it - again NOT YOU- might be called on try to create a behavior plan for her, but success is likely to be limited. Your fence-sitting is not helping her, and it is eating you alive.
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Thank you all again for your ideas. Curtain, I can tell by the things you said that you have been there.. Of course I have thought about moving and I have come up with some ideas. 1. A new place is not free from neighbors that are just as bad. I have heard horror stories from people that have moved thinking they were getting into better places only to find it was just as bad. I do understand that peace of mind is EVERYTHING. 2. I will bump up being more aggressive. I have still have this mentality to honor and respect others especially elders.. This woman is forcing me to get outside of my nature. It can be a learning experience but the truth is that I stay away from people I find toxic and if someone finds me toxic for whatever reason I will stay away from them. I really think what it boils down to is chemistry,either you have it with someone or you don't. It is interesting to watch my dog meet other dogs. He really enjoys some, tries to fight some, loves some, ignores some all depending on smell and chemistry. I think humans are like that too.

I think some of the reason I have been treating this 84 year old woman with kid gloves is because I loved my grandmother so much. My grandmother was the love of my life and when ever anyone was rude to her it hurt me deeply. My 84 year old neighbor is NOT my grandmother, she does not act look or talk like her but somewhere in my head I want to be kind and loving to her and know I can't because she is so F&*^(%^ toxic.
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I had a neighbor who was mentally ill, focused on me, and destroyed the peace of my home some time ago and I learned some important things - I too suffer from Nice Person syndrome. You need to make a clear decision on what you can/will do:
1) Fight for your space as aggressively as possible, even though you will go against your nature. If you choose this, don't hold back - make sure you will win. This is hard to do for people compassionate by nature.
2) Don't fight, wait her out, avoid continue as you are - but how much longer can your health really take that? Ongoing stress is still damaging even if you've adapted to it.
3) Move - accept the reality that your peace is more important than any physical location. I let my pride and stubbornness cause me not to choose this option till it was way too late. The constant stress from my intrusive neighbor literally did deep damage to my life because it took away the energy I needed for other critical things. Ask yourself, what is the cost of staying?
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If the other neighbors are being annoyed by the same person, perhaps you could ALL call the Elder Abuse Hotline (or whatever agency is appropriate), reporting that this lady is constantly asking for help that she is obviously not getting adequately at home.
And you might get a recording of a loud barking dog that you can trigger when you see her coming to ring your doorbell. And if she complains, just say you have no dog.
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Wow. You've become a prisoner in your own paradise. That's awful. I would do something to totally turn her off of you, since nothing else is working. You've tried to be nice and helpful and she's latching onto that. Take the things that "bug" her the most and "become" them ("confide" in her that you're part of the race she hates, you're now of the opposite political party, etc., disagree with her on everything...). That kind of stress has no place in your haven, your home. You sound like a very sweet person and I'm sure it grieves you to be mean to others, but honestly it's your sanity or her feelings at this point. I know we don't like to hurt others, but sometimes they don't leave us a choice. Hope you can muster the courage to protect your haven and your emotional health. Good luck to you.
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Some of your comments made me smile (countrymouse). I talked to a police officer about my situation and he laughed, joking around saying 'just squirt her with a water gun next time she knocks'. He also said that he thinks nothing will be done about it since she is 84. Yesterday the manic knocking and calling constantly was because they had mail in their mail box that belonged to me. I sometimes get other neighbors mail and I knock on their door and if they do not answer I put it in their front door or back in their mail box. I have talked with other neighbors and my one neighbor said that the 84 year old kept on talking for over an hour and would not let her go. My next door neighbor is a lot more aggressive than I am and she had trouble shaking the 84 year old off.. I have seen my 84 year old neighbor cornering others and I see their body language as they want to get away and she insists they they listen to every word she has to say.. I know I am not the only one getting this but I am the only one getting the constant phone calls and door knocks because she knows I work from home. katiedat2009, I really have thought about moving. I have looked and there is nothing or no where else I would rather live than in my beautiful home. It took me 2 years of remodeling to get it perfect and very functional plus my daughter lives very close and we do things together. In the summer I teach a fitness class close by so I can walk to work. My neighbor has to stop the annoying behavior so we all can live in harmony. At least the very early phone calls have ended but if she starts to wake me up early again I will scream at the top of my lungs. It is truly awful when a person can not entertain them self.
I will have another talk with her son and tell him that I am dealing with my mother's life, her finances, Doctors etc and I really do not want the load of his mother's care. Even though I love my mother very much her care is all time consuming and she lives in another state. I do something for her everyday. When I get off the phone with her and her doctors I am wore out and do not want to listen to a blow by blow of all what the doctors and nurses said to my neighbor. I need a break from listening to geriatric talk. I feel awful that I can not give more but to protect my own sanity I just can't take on my neighbor. This entire situation has taught me many things and one is to have my own aging process in order for when I get older. Last night my husband said he will fight, yelling and screaming when he has to be put in a nursing home and I said, bring it on, I will gladly go, I see the fun and company my mother has and I hope to find a nursing home as good as the one my mother is in. I have a great time when I visit her and she tells me all the time how grateful she is for all the wonderful people that help her. My mother before she went to the nursing home was a royal pain in the ass and almost ruined her relationship with all of us. When I do visit my mother she is all consuming and demanding and taking. I do love her so I can find the energy to do what ever she wants and I have to talk with her like I did my kids and I have to take a break but when I get home and back to my life I want my freedom and quiet and that is when my 84 year old neighbor comes around with her demands and wanting undivided attention. I have not seen the 84 year olds daughter around for months and she has an adopted daughter that never comes over to see her even though she lives close by. I do feel for the 60 year old son that has the care plus he works all day.

Next step is to talk to the son again and let him know how grieving it has been. He may not have a clue. The only words I can use to describe my 84 year old neighbor are negative words. Intrusive, invasive, controlling, over bearing, rude, racist, and very politically opinionated. And I usually like people that are not the norm.. It was so weird when I felt like my phone was her hospital call button.. Now that she knows I do not answer my phone the calls have really slowed down. When I first met them I knew how how hard the son's job was taking care of his mother in the house alone so I had to problem helping here and there but it got to be an everyday thing with her having to know my every move and it started to feel invasive and intrusive. The constant interruption was awful because it broke my concentration. Since all this has happened I have studied how to be more assertive and I really was when I first told the 84 year old woman that she was being too much for me. I actually told her several times which makes me believe she is very mentally ill. Dealing with a mentally ill person is very stressful, and add on top of that a mentally ill person that is lonesome. Someone on this site asked 'How did this become your problem?' and I thought that was a great question because I have no idea how it became so out of hand and my problem. It is an entire different thing when dealing with mental illness. katiekat2009, the 84 year old woman was married to an insurance salesman, I hope he set her up in assisted living. It was time for her to be there years ago. I have really thought about moving but the bottom line is that she needs to stop the stalking and invading so we all can live happily. Thank you for the replies, it is very healing to type it out and hear other suggestions. I am still working from the heart and trying to get to peace the best way I know how..
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I don't think she will ever go to assisted living - the son would have to find another place to live! (Unless she is very wealthy.) You might as well move! Just consider the improvements you made on the house as increasing its value.
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"they've been Raptured"
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Dof4, speaking of wishing your neighbour thought you were creepy: you could…

answer the door wearing a Halloween mask
answer the door in the nude
don't answer the door and say in your spookiest voice "There's nobody here any more. We've eaten them."

I'm just hoping it might relieve some tension - can you think of any you'd find fun to do?
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Have you ever gathered your neighbors to find out if she's doing this to them as well? Maybe they've figured out how to deal with her. At this point, I think I'd open the door and scream obscenities at her. But do take legal action to protect yourself. Even us old hippies can use the law to our own advantage.
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it's not like we are suggesting putting dead animals in her bed, sending hate mail, or vandalizing her house, you know.
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You are in the same boat because you won't do anything different. You are willing to make yourself into a prisoner and a recluse when you are in your own home - if she can't look in, you can't look out - but you are not willing to call in authorites about her, and can't even imagine yelling at her??? Who benefits from your refusal to set boundaries - is it really that critical to you to go on tolerating this and stressing out so you can continue to think of yourself as a Nice Person? Get counseling and get help getting her out of your life. YOU are the person who suggested helping her more and not being "mean"! But if someone else wrote in and was in this same boat with you, what would YOU tell that person to do? Would you really tell them that you should just buy better drapes and keep ignoring, even though that has not worked before for longer than a couple of weeks? Repeat: get help to find out what is really stopping you from changing your own approach and then get whatever help you need to put a stop to this. I know some wonderful self-styled "old hippies" and some of them have no fear of kicking butt when oppressed, but you seem to think if you are a nice caring rational person then no one could ever fail to get along with you. Wish it was so, but it ain't. And you are at this pint, truly oppressed.
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I assume you've kept a log go her harassment and posted "no trespassing "signs on your property. However you need to request a restraining order in your town, do it. Call APS and report her as a vulnerable adult. Have a lawyer (hopefully you have a friend who is a lawyer) send a cease and desist letter to her with a copy to her son.
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I remember this thread, but not all the details. It sounds like she is stalking you. Have you reported her to authorities or asked for a restraining order?

When you don't answer the door, does she just go away?
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I have been following this thread since the beginning but felt I didn't have anything to add. I hear how this situation is affecting you, you virtually have become a prisoner in your own home, afraid to enjoy your yard, open the door, even work in your office with an open window. I think this woman and her son will never relent until she either dies or becomes too ill to pursue you. Can you envision living with this for that long? I know we invest a lot emotionally into our homes but perhaps it is time to consider making a move. I had to sell the family farm and it was a terribly heartbreaking decision, but the relief from the burden of maintaining it has been immense, it was definitely the right thing to do.
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9 months ago I posted about my invasive, intrusive elderly neighbor.. Things were quiet for a little while and then bam back to calling my home and knocking on my door constantly. Today is cold and rainy so I had my office light on all day and she just had to knock on my door. I have listened to the suggestions on here and I have not talked with her one bit. Just the thought of talking with her makes my stomach ill and I have no idea why she just will not stop. Just stop. I looked out my door and saw her there and I immediately got sick to my stomach. I know that there is no one out there that can tolerate her. And if you are the person that wrote for me to help her more, you need to read all my posts and the time I have spent dealing with her and then maybe you should come here and help her yourself..
I feel spiritually worn out with her just knocking on my door.. Just because my office light is on does not give her the right to bug me. I do have to get double shaded curtains so she just does not know what is going on. I do not know anyone that would tolerate being watched as much as she watches me. The only choice I have is to ignore her and I am close to yelling at her like someone suggested. I say that but in real life it is too hard for me to be like that. For now I am ignoring and hope she just goes away. I wish she could find a friend or activity or something anything to do. We do not have anything in common, she is very stuffy, political and boring and I am a left over hippy that loves peace, harmony, fun and I don't care if other people cuss.. The old neighbor went a few weeks and did not bug me and now it is in high gear again. She is plain creepy and so is her son. I wish she thought I was creepy and left me alone..
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Update: So far so good. Not answering the door and letting her calls ring through and not letting her make a message on my answering machine has been good. I have been careful to not be outside the same time as my neighbor so my peace and tranquility are slowly coming back. It has been a long hard road and I do not want to open that up at any cost.. I struggle with guilt when I see her light on and she is alone in her home and then I go through my list of why I could not have her in my life anymore and it balances the guilt. The truth of the matter is that she wanted me to take care of her 24/7 just because we are neighbors and I just am not in that place or time in my life and I simply just do not want that job or responsibility either. I pray this nonsense has come to a complete halt and I can go about my life without all the grief that my neighbor dishes out. Thank you all again.
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I am just so grateful for this support group and for all the different ideas and options. Country mouse, I have seen ghosts so I know they are real, many people have seen them but too embarrassed to admit it since others tease them. I have seen my son's spirit and grandmother's spirit a few times so to me that is REAL. Blannie, I have thought of blocking her number but after researching I decided to just let it ring through because if she is blocked she will knock on my door twice as much. Jessie Bele I have told my neighbor to back off in words and deeds and it goes in one ear and out the other. Like vstefuns said, her frontal lobes are not working. I have thought about what is so unbearable about her and the list goes on and on. First of all she attacks where I go to Church, she does not like people of other races, she is not fun or funny, she talks non stop about politics, she pushes herself into my home and will not leave when I tell her that I am busy, I had to remind her constantly, not opening the door has been very helpful. She is nothing like my mother or grandmother. My neighbor has not said 'You will not ignore me' out loud but her actions are telling me that she refuses to be ignored.(another sign of mental illness). The list of why I don't want her in my life is a mile long. She is not authentic. Last spring I got very sick and almost passed out in my garage. My husband was home and saw me lay down on a blanket in the garage. My nosy neighbor came over and saw me laying there and started to boss my husband around about the things he should be fixing at her house, this really stressed both of us out. It just got worse from then on.The world revolves around her and her constant wants and needs..ba8alou I wanted to say what you said I should say to her! You gave me a good laugh. cricketfarms You are so right, she is picking up my compassionate vibe and playing hard on it. Not anymore. I have introduced her to the guy down the street and they do talk but they do not want to be around old people even though they are both old. Old guy still comes around and has a severe crush on my daughter but said he would take either one of us. Disgusting. ba8alou, I know there are some people that I need to be rude to but at this point it is not rude but firm, I also understand that this woman is not balanced and I can't expect to treat her like a normal person. Sometimes ignoring an unbalance person will work and they will find someone else to torment. I just wish she could find a friend but she is too draining and needy. Thank you vstefans for your compassion over my mother's failing health I will really miss her when the time comes. Thank you all for your opinions! Gives me a lot to work with.
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OK, you really are back in terminal annoyance mode...good to know hubby backs you...my hubby can't handle my annoying friend and just ducks out if she comes to the coffee shop or anything :-) though he manages it pretty gracefully.

Well, are you going to move, verbally tell her to stay away and then get a restraining order if she doesn't, go ahead and let her under your skin after all, or just quietly go nuts from being a total prisoner in your home and having your whole life revolve around avoiding her??

Does she actually say "YOU WILL NOT IGNORE ME" or is it just her persistence (which is probably either entirely due to or at least or worsened by lack-of-frontal-lobe-function neurologically based perseveration...that might would explain her limited, seemingly shallow spirtuality too)? Can you put your finger on just one thing or a few specific things she does or represents that makes her coming around the most unbearable for you, and devise plans that set limits on those things? Here's hoping it is not just that she is too much like your mother for your comfort while you try again to decide how to handle her. Any of the above choices (except the last one, of course) seem like they might be reasonable and correct to do here. Setting limits does not make you "an a**" in any way... granted, she is a living human person and you can't retaliate and directly harm her, but at the same time, you are not required to let her harm you!! Sorry to hear your own mother is not doing so well!
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Maybe send the one guy down the street who is bothering you too much over to the nosy neighbor who is stalking you and let them obsess over each other. Sounds like they both have plenty of time for it and maybe they will then leave you alone. Seriously though, you keep saying how sorry you feel for her that she is alone (there is a reason she is alone) or how badly you feel for her. She is picking up this vibe from you just as surely as you pick up her seething negative vibe. It gives her encouragement to keep on and it's why she ignores your words.
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The threat I mentioned was vague enough not to warrant arrest. This lady is not getting that she is being annoying. There are people you NEED to be rude to.
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Have you considered talking to her pastor? But document, document, document!
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LOL Ba8alou. The way the world is going, the original poster will wind up in jail and the old harasser will be free to harass the original poster's now *lonely* husband (who's wife is in the slammer). :)
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Can you have your husband speak to her son and spell it out on no uncertain terms that if she bothers you ONE more time a call to the police and a restraining order will be issued. Perhaps he is neglecting her, who knows. She is HIS problem. Lay it out ONE time and then take action!
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I might scream in her face "leave me the f¥¥k alone or I'm coming to get you" maybe she'd take out a restraining order.
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