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It bothers me that I leave the SNF every day and feel like I’m the one with dementia. Trying to carry on a conversation daily with someone who has no idea where they or what year it is can be exhausting. Watching the wheels spinning, but nothing intelligible comes out leaves me bewildered. I find it hard to switch gears to go to work, perform well and go about my own life. I quite literally fear for my own mental health after I walk out every day. It’s only been a month for me, but I’m learning to just roll with it, try to make her laugh and for Gods sake, don’t mention anything that’s more than 24 hours in the future.
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MicheleDL Aug 2022
That's it. You get the prize. I know this is serious, but I stopped dead and laughed out loud, when I read just your first line. I'm doing the shoulders up and down stomach tighteing shaking all over big smile laughter thing right now too. I'm so sorry, I read the rest, its serious, but your hilarious. Thank you.
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Marialake, you lament sounds like an echo of my own life with my Loved One. He is an 89 year old amputee with balance issues. He has very poor hearing even with a hearing aid and he's legally blind. He is unable to fend for himself with the most basic of tasks. Must be helped to dress, undress, loaded into the shower (thank God he still is able to wash himself and wash his hair). I do all of the caregiving with no outside help, take care of the house, the cooking, the yards, the vehicle maintenance and manage his medical needs (which are complex with the aid of five specialists). He has undergone months of wound care, hyperbaric chamber treatments, hospitalizations, etc. He is now stable, home and we have got a rhythm to each day that works. Unfortunately, it leaves about 45 minutes in the morning before he awakens and about 1 1/2 hour at night after he goes to bed that are my own times to read, relax, recoup. He doesn't want an outside caregiver because he doesn't trust anyone. On Sundays, I take about 3 hours completely off and paint (my only entertainment or relaxation to speak of). He always finds some way to disrupt that time period with some "need" or another. A bit overwhelming at times. I, too, feel guilty at times for thinking he is a self-centered pain. Thanks for letting me get that off my chest.
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I think maybe if there's ONE thing that stands out would be this. I wasn't prepared to retire at 59 years old but had to to help parents, brother and MIL with Dr appts. etc. I'm sure they all appreciated the help, but no one offered to help with finances...gas, lack of income to the family (husband and I) After MIL, Mother, Dependant brother with mental handicap parents cared for whole life passed, Father moved in. He had been in ICU and wasn't expected to last much longer......5 years later he's a amazement to the DR.s
However, back to what bothers me...husband lost job during Pandemic, couldn't find another...61 at the time....now 66. So! We are 'pinching pennies' to the extreme. I will get a nice inheritance, but who knows when that will happen. We have spent 5 years 'locked' in our home basically. My grown children with grandchildren are acting resentful of my time....have lightly offered to help, but never have (I understand how it is with families and working, but...)
The hardest is dealing with a husband that is increasingly getting unhappy with the situation. He wants to be able to go out to dinner occasionally or maybe just a drive together - ALONE...
I feel pulled and torn from all directions! If I put my father in a facility, they will use all the inheritance before Medicare kicks in..... then I'm really up the creek. My father has just enough mental cognition that hardly anyone talking to him for a short time can tell he has dementia. He will probably disown me and also as bad, feel hurt beyond belief.
There are times I wish I could completely disappear.
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polarbear Jul 2022
..."husband lost job during Pandemic, couldn't find another...61 at the time....now 66. ..."
"...5 years 'locked' in..."

How did you figure 5 years? Here in the US, the COVID pandemic didn't start until March 2020 when big government told the people to stay home for 2 weeks to flatten the curve. Well, 2 weeks turned to 2 years and counting.

So, where did you get the 5 years from?
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This is also my most frustrating issue with my spouse who has FT dementia. I had actually fallen down stairs and asked for his help, he said are you ok and I responded no. He stepped over me to go to the bathroom. His thoughts are his needs, he wants to eat, he wants to go home, he wants air conditioning off, etc. He can be very demanding when he wants something.
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MicheleDL Aug 2022
Yes, I've experienced that too. Early on my husband and I were standing together on ice. I felt like a cartoon when both my feet slipped, zipping this way and that (time enough to be grabbed and steadied) but I went down hard. He just stood there and didn't even extend a hand to help me up once I hit the ice covered concrete. He was not like that before his illness.

My friend has an autistic middle aged son. She's handicapped. If she drops something he just watches her struggle to pick the item up. My man has become like that too with Alzheimers disease. No sense of compassion, except for animals, come to think of it.

It's a major disappointment and huge loss to have a manly gentleman transform into a child.
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There is always something new (to me) to deal with. Just when I think I've got a handle on everything....that goes out the door. Currently husband's appetite has dropped pretty low. Having cared for my mom with end stage cancer, and pre-existing eating issues (oh-the stories), I have a few tatics to deal with this*. Otherwise, it would be so nice to have maybe four or five days when things here go fairly smoothly.


*If I make my power pudding, will post the recipe, all from scratch, obscenely rich and really, really goood! : )
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I probably already posted this, but INCONTINENCE bothers me most! Why? On call 365/24. Every couple hours escort to toilet. INCLUDES ALL weekends/evenings/nights/holidays, my birthday! If you slack off even a bit you risk UTI, diaper rash, sores, ACCIDENTS, secret accidents, messes, urine stench, your furniture, your car, criticism. So, don't slack off. And the laundry. Pants and more pants! Socks...who knew? And shoes. Not to mention bedding and pads, the FLOOR. Washing netherbody parts in shower, sitz baths, sponge baths. Then clean the toilet, the toilet AREA and commode and UNDER THE COMMODE. The trash. The trash. The trash. The cost of incontinence supplies is as much as the rest of her groceries combined: pullups, nighttime pullups, liners, barrier cream, wipes and more wipes, tissue boxes upon boxes, paper towels, gloves, trash bags, commode bags, laundry detergent, Odoban. Without incontinence, caregiving would be an entirely different adventure. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Usedup1959 Jul 2022
You described this perfectly. I couldn’t believe/describe some of the messes I had to clean up.

Sometimes the bed and my mom were so soiled there was no clean spot to move her to so I could clean her up. I had to just throw some of the sheets away. I wasn’t going to try and save it. The floor to as you mentioned. And all for the person who told me to NEVER ASK HER FOR ANYTHING.

My mom died in October on my birthday. I’m sort of over the trauma of the messes I had to clean up but there was so much more to her care. It was a very complicated situation and I don’t know if I’ll recover from that in the light of how she was not willing to do anything for me. Not that I even would have asked.

My vent moment.
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1 thing I want to mention is, the financial aspect of being kind, caring, helping your elderly parents.

1. You’re very likely going to get poor.

2. You’re very likely a woman.

3. You were very likely (even before caregiving) poorer than your financially well-off siblings. There are exceptions: but basically if all your life you’re kind, sweet, caring, you’re likely also not rich; whereas people who are un-caring, ruthless, amoral, don’t mind kicking others on the way to the top.

4. It seems the kinder you are in life, the poorer you’ll be. Indeed, women tend to be exploited: financially, and with their time (let’s dump all the caregiving on YOU).

From one woman to all other women here:

Please don’t get exploited.
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Ojrenee Jul 2022
Just the word poor seemed to bring out the most horrid treatment from entire family members. Working like a dog cleaning, painting yard work cooking any job they didn't want to do was given to me for little to no money, or promise of payment that never came. Used as a door mat, talked down to n behind my back. Caring for my mom while dad drank played lottery n left mom w me out of state at a young age. I would beg him to take her back home n explain I'm single mom who tryed college n jobs but never seemed to be my able to keep afloat due to always owing my dad back 2x the money I borrowed never consider I cared for mom almost full time always tired no relationships worked out, sibling using me as a work horse no money. My kind heart gave n gave. Long story short sold my home moved back to my home state w mom's health worse bought a fixer upper which is still fixer upper mom died 8 years ago whom dad started showing declining health but after 21 years I sacrificed my relationship w my children, my freedom or all that come with having n taking care of oneself. Dad dumped all his responsibility of his pay bills n paperwork were he had no worries I wouldnt do a good job while he helped neighbors, strangers n squandered his money on lottery n liquor while never paying me for all the hours. He died after 8 years of abuses mistreatment, disrespect, gaslighting to point of brain fog, he had done everything he could to take what little bit of money I had. End of life I put him in a nursing facility n am hated from entire family whom never not once helped w mom's care or dads but threw me under bus n talk bad about me. Well he died a week ago n I'm relieved, wrote off the rest of family members who watched my failing health treated me worse then their pets n wasn't even mentioned in his will. After 29 years I'm now filled w so much excitement about life n what I'm going to do w it but mentally emotionally n physically drained. I question myself as to why I would give the best of myself to people who treated me like ****. Hopeful one day I can forgive myself for wasting all the years I did when it was never appreciated n I'm hated.
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It drives me insane when we go day after day & month after month without anybody (family &/or friends) coming by or even offering to help in any way at all especially when they know that's the only way I get a break is if someone comes to sit with my grandmother & let's me get away for lil bit to recharge myself & help prevent burnout, also knowing I'm not gonna ask for help either but we still go months at a time without seeing anybody but I swear the instant my grandmother gets admitted to hospital or rehab facility, then everybody is popping in on a daily if not multiple times each day. I mean really people it'd be nice if u maybe did it regularly & not just when something happens. It might even prevent some hospital stays bc I'm sure it affects her body & mental health both when we go the long spells without seeing anybody & makes me so mad bc truthfully they are not realizing by only coming when something happens & then showing up every day for the month or 2 afterwards they are putting it in her mind that when she ends up there then she gets to see em every day so she could very well start doin stuff causing herself to end up in hospital or rehab & that's not a good thing at all. Not smart & they act like I'm horrible for not staying up there constantly. No I'm not trying to have her wanting to be there more than at home.
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venting Jul 2022
I totally understand you.

“they are not realizing by only coming when something happens & then showing up every day for the month or 2 afterwards”

By the way, they totally realize what they’re doing. But they don’t want to look too bad. They could also choose not to visit at all when she’s in hospital: but then they would look really bad. And maybe they’re hoping for inheritance? Trying to make sure she doesn’t cut them out of the will?

Of course they realize it would be better for you, and for her, if they visited regularly at home.

Why don’t they do it?

Because they want to do the minimum.

And if they visit at home (and if you take a break), then THEY must do the work!

If they visit in hospital, they don’t need to do any work: the nurses/doctors are working.

Your absent family members are SELFISH and exploiting you.
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I've been with my mom since Jan 2020. And as soon as I sit down she is asking for something meaning get up . But the worst thing for me is she starts talking or rambling during the climax of a movie that we have sat there and watched. And the fact she is an know it all.

Doctor appts, dentist, blood work, chores around the house, grocery, clothes, etc
I feel burned out a lot, I think I may be depressed.
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BurntCaregiver Jul 2022
Lorie,

My mother is also a know-it-all who sounds exactly like yours.
Finally, I reached the end of my rope after a lifetime of her dysfunctional and abusive behavior. So now, she can figure things out herself.
Do as little as is safely possible in your situation and go completely 'Grey Rock'. This means engage her on only the most basic level. Ask only yes/no questions. Do not have conversations with her. Do not watch movies with her. Do not do anything with her.
When she gets lonely and starts asking questions tell her.
You feel burned out because you are burned out.
I know that living with my mother and caregiving has almost killed me. Did you know that something like 50% or so of caregivers die before the person they're caring for?
Enough is enough.
You definitely have depression. Meds are not the answer for it because that doesn't fix the problem.
Please forgive me, but you live with an a**hole who you are a slave to and it will ruin your life.
I been there and am currently still there, but I'm leaving. You should too for your own sake. No amount of potential inheritance is worth it. No amount of guilt or obligation is enough to justify enduring what so many caregivers live with every day.
Walk away. You will not be wrong to so.
People should think of caregiving for an elderly parent like they are part of a couple. A type of marriage if you will.
When a couple is so miserable together that they've grow to hate and resentment, they divorce. Sometimes they divorce so it doesn't get to the point where there is hate. I divorced my first husband before it grew into hate. Society accepts this. Their kids (if they have them) in time come to accept it as well because it's what is best for everyone.
Adult children who are caregivers to an elderly parent should think of it this way.
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I feel the same. Endless chores and I’m not really sure she gets it on my part. My mother was diagnosed with paranoia schizophrenia when I was age 10. I gave up a lot in my life for her illness and it destroyed my dad. He remarried and got a life but he never stopped caring for her. I now an 68 and she is 93. Trips to doctors, worrying if an aide will show up, keeping track of timesheets, groceries, med refills, nurse appointments, blood appointments, the list is endless. She says she cares about my well-being but does she really when she takes a tantrum when she doesn’t get her ice cream or hair spray. I’m an only child. When do I get a life?
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LorieS3417 Jul 2022
You poor thing, I dont think I have it as bad. My marriage is taking its toll. My husband just got a job out of state and he wants to move me there. I feel Im here for a reason and that is for her. Its only been 3 yrs.
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Just need to vent. Haven’t been here for a while.

Why, why, why do I have such a manipulative, difficult, cruel family member in my life? Someone I can’t easily cut ties with, of course, otherwise life would be too easy…Why (I’m screaming this in my mind, with some tears) is my fate like this?

Maybe evil people are attracted to good people…they need good people to use as their targets…I bet if I were evil, a lot of bad people would stay away from me…So is that the price of being a good, kind person? That you’ll always be the target of some evil family or non-family member?

Horrible how some people treat others.
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Im with ya!!! It gets old...
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One thing, is the absolute lack of privacy, and feeling some days like I have to explain everything to everyone 24/7
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Gleoni1411 Jun 2022
I am 53 been doing this for 10 years. I understand you 100%... Sometimes I feel like I am 15 years old again... Can't even leave the house without having to give a big detail about where I'm going, when I will be back, what I'm doing... Ugggg
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I *think* that my efforts were appreciated at the end, and I feel like a stronger person for having been a caregiver (I mean, if we can do that we can handle anything, right?}, but my absentee sibling was never criticized for doing nothing. And his share of the inheritance was equal to mine. Sorry, I should’ve gotten more $ than that a**h*** did. Like all of it. I don’t care if that sounds petty.
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Gleoni1411 Jun 2022
Omg same as me.. He strools into town sees my Dad and back to his life... His friends, Wife, Job, New home. Only calls my Dad once a week for not even 10 minutes but he sure will be here at the end to get his inheritance.... A joke...
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The most? There's so much to choose from, though! I think what bothers me the absolute most is that I am nobody. I think it's who I am, not just how my mother treats me, though, as everyone in my family (except one brother) asks too much of me and gives nothing - NOTHING - in return. And no one gives a rat's ass if I'm unwell. That, and the fact that I feel selfish even saying this here.
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LH1971 Jun 2022
You are definitely not a nobody, my friend!
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Caregiving for an Alzheimer's patient is so boring. I have to turn my brain off when I see my mother. It is just an endless round of same questions and statements, nonstop, every minute, for hours on end. I'd like to put an icepick through my brain.

Granted mom was never a bright bulb, with a high school education and no career other than worshipping "dad," now passed on 4 years ago.

She should have cultivated friends, outside interests, hobbies, a career, additional education, something, anything to exercise her brain! But she didn't: she let "dad" do all her thinking for her, and now since "dad" is gone, I and my brother are her entertainment.
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OMG, his stubbornness! We would check on him twice a day, since he insisted on living alone, stubborn old coot.

I would walk in with his medicine dispenser and ask if he’d taken his morning medicine, he’d say yes. It was still in the dispenser. He would argue till the cows come home that he took it! I’d say ok, time to take some more, then he’d argue THAT, saying no he only takes medicine 4 times a day.

Back in the afternoon - repeat the argument. Happened 3-4 days a week.
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That’s an interesting question! Personally, the fact that when I wasn’t at 100% capacity I still had to give the utmost respect even when they were verbally abusive to me( just plain out right mean and nasty) that along with the physical aspect is and can be overwhelming!

It takes a certain kind of mentality to give care and that mentality has to know how to keep it all together because it can be stressful. I always had to say” treat them the way you would want to be treated “ but, there were some times I just couldn’t include a smile… lol

You have to step out of the storm and redirect your emotions then jump back in and navigate but always with love and respect!!!
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The one thing that bothers me most are people who inflict toxic positivity and mewl about their “gratitude” as an escape for confronting any long term plan. I especially hate it when they posit it as part of a fun family activity.

If you have to get someone to sort your pills for you, that’s going to be likely to continue even after the immediate intervention is over. And pill sorting is just the start. There’s the driving. The toileting. The fall risks and more operations and the AND AND AND. With minimal consideration to the child or their needs other than to say they are “grateful.” It’s just another shame and deflection tactic on their part.

My in laws were treated aggressively for cancer and stroke respectively. Now neither of them can walk. While it is their right to keep demanding ever more exotic and or risky procedures, it is also their responsibility to take responsibility for their decisions, both in the short and in the long term.

If they wanna go out of state for the newest thing they can’t get here, then fine, but we can’t be part of it. We can’t just give up our jobs and obligations and lie that it absolutely is no problem.
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Having family members or friends who talk to her MAYBE once a month for 15 minutes say things like,

"She's doing remarkably well."
"She's sharp as a tack!"
"She's really the same old 'Mary'!"

Um, try getting her to take her meds properly. Try looking at duplicates, triplicates and quadruplicates of full meds bottles, have the horrifying realization that she's not taking ANY of her meds properly, and hasn't been for G-d knows how long, and then when you question her, she blames the drug store for sending all these pills she doesn't need.

Try telling her not to unlock and open her door in the middle of the night after she insists it's an old boyfriend or family member knocking at her door. Try getting the emergency phone call from her security system company that a burglar alarm has been set off, or worse yet, a medical alarm has been set off and EMS has been dispatched.

Try getting the hysterical phone call from several states away that her dog has gotten loose and is running down the street and she can't get him because she can barely get around even with her walker.

Try hearing from the friend that takes her to the doctor that she filled out the questionnaire before the appointment and says she hasn't been falling (lie), can pay her own bills (lie), can bathe herself (lie).

Sorry, that was a bit of a rant, wasn't it. I feel better!
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Gleoni1411 Jun 2022
You go ahead and rant. I just did the same... I truly understand what you are dealing with. Everyone in my family says he sounds great, he's doing great, he is still active at 98... I want to scream (I live with him) Are you people nuts... They are nuts they are making themselves feel better for not helping. It's just that simple,.... Good luck to you!!!
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She probably is an old battleaxe...they will continue to battle to be the
center of attention and would complain about blood on the floor and expect you to clean it up.
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What bothers me the most is reading about total disrespect many caregivers experience.
Caregiving should not be done for people who do not appreciate it. I am not overly religious, I remain stubbornly agnostic, so I do not believe there is reward for it in afterlife. But, I do believe I can improve my husband’s quality of life as he declines. However, if there is not appreciation, balance, and needs of both are met, then the resentment will leave them with bitterness or destroy them in some ways.
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what bothers me?

sweet, kind daughters totally undeservedly abused/tortured by their mothers. (i know some sons are abused, too; and some fathers are abusive).

but this message goes out to all of you/us - daughters - abused by mothers.

here’s a useful paragraph:

“Mothers can sometimes be jealous of their child—especially their daughters—and may do things to minimize, discourage, or even undermine and/or discredit the child in the eyes of others.”

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i wish you/us, not only to survive, but with strength of character and self-determination, thrive in spite of your mother's misdeeds.

bundle of joy :)
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bundleofjoy Jun 2022
i want to add something:

if by chance you happen to stumble upon some magic potion that transforms a nasty person into a nice person, pleeeeease send to:

bundle of joy

(the mailman/mailwoman will find me)

i’m patiently awaiting the package 🎁🪄💫
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My sister who is nasty, a bully, does nothing but cause trouble. And I have to let her into my house to visit my mother when instead I want to cut off all contact FOREVER.
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Louise4 Jun 2022
I know exactly how you feel!
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I am so sorry to hear she treats you this way! It is a thankless job¡
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So rare anymore to feel rested, relaxed and not wondering what rotten thing is going to happen today.
Sometimes when I can't sleep, will do a mindful exercise and think about what a totally boring, nothing to do, quiet couple of days would be like. Works every time : )
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tygrlly1 Jun 2022
Yes...I can so relate...Im not sleeping well anymore.... I dream of bad weather so I have an excuse not to visit her and step into the vipers den. I didnt mind the pandemic lockdown ..all her groceries delivered with no drama.
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Ive been caregiver for over 27yrs.Control bothers me.If I'm hired let me do my job...Kids I can handle this..Patient I realize someday I will be in your shoes and need help but you need to allow me to show you I can take care of you.Its gonna look different but that's not bad..ughees..Sending healing love to all.and feel free to Reach out to me.
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Mine is prioritizing my elderly mom over the needs of my husband and family and vIve versa. No matter what I do, I fail someone that I love.
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notrydoyoda Jun 2022
Please stop for you may well end up all alone one day with no husband, no family and a dead mom by trying to love them all equally when you are only one person and no one has called you to die on that cross.
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One of the things I hate the most, is being judged or given patronizing 'advice' by anyone who's never..........done..........this..........a..........day..........of..........their..........life. If you've never done this, you have absolutely no idea. And I've been amazed by the true empathy I've received from those who have been there.
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Littlelove1 Jun 2022
I hear you loud and clear! Been there, done that! Everyone needs to think about how you feel. Not just themselves. Unless they have been in your situation, they don't know the huge responsibilities you have in caring for everyone. If they cannot hear or see what you do, it may be time to explain it all very clearly! All you can do is the best to your ability, without killing yourself!
Stay strong and do not forget to take care of yourself, first!
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The never-ending demands, total ingratitude and being told how that because she’s my mother, only I should be grateful to her. Nothing is ever enough.
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