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If she is in assisted living why are u footing the bill for an aide? If she needs an aide then it sounds like it’s time for a nursing home.. the aides there are paid for by Medicare for her custodial care .. they have staff around the clock and access to the medical care also... as for the abuse... I have to put your physical and mental health first .. u have to protect your mental health and stay away from negativity ... been there before
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Gabbygirl Jan 2019
I think maybe you might be confused as to the living situation. I believe she said Mom is living in an independent senior living apartment, which is really nothing more than an apartment building with a minimum age requirement and likely they are more handicap accessible. It's not the same as assisted living. There are no staff or aides providing care. There are no services or assistance. That is why the family is paying for an aide.
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Did you seek out counseling for the ex husband, who was absive? Why are you footing the bill for your abusive mom's care? Don't engage in your mom's childish & abusive behavior.
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statewise;

Is mom not able to pay for assistance on her own? Why do the children pay for it? As her dementia progresses, she'll have to move to AL or MC. Some assistance is built into the cost, additional assistance will cost more. Is she going to be able to pay for this? As someone else noted, NH is NOT what mom needs. That is for those who require specialized nursing care that AL and MC will not provide. She is nowhere near needing that and it would likely make her even more cantankerous!!!

As for her behavior, whether it is long-standing or new due to dementia, you have choices to make:

1. If her voice messages begin with nastiness, delete it without listening to the whole message.

2. Don't discuss care for your husband or in-laws visiting. She doesn't need to know and can't complain about what she doesn't know! If she brings them up, tell her you haven't seen in-laws in months or years, and hubby is doing fine. End of discussion!

3. If she calls and starts being nasty, stop her and tell her if she continues, conversation is over, then hang up if she continues. Do not answer if she calls again, and if need be take the phone off the hook (cell phone, turn off sound, or "dismiss" call and let it go to voice mail.)

4. If she is nasty when you visit, bring someone else along. Sometimes having another person inhibits this. If not, tell her to be nice or you will leave. If she continues, leave. Someone else mentioned this and I have seen my mom behave much differently when "others" are around (have to keep up pretenses so the others are not aware of the dirty laundry!!)

5. If this is new behavior, it isn't easy but let the nasty comments roll off your back. YOU know what you do for her and YOU know her comments are unwarranted. Yes, it can be hurtful, but if you just chalk it up to dementia and let it slide, don't take it to heart, it'll get better and easier over time.

6. If this is old behavior, you can still try to let it slide. Before our mother developed dementia I finally told her one time that it hurt that she called me a freak when growing up. I know she had told me how her sisters had called her that. Her response? I don't remember that. Sure you don't, because it didn't hurt YOU! Some people have no idea how much they hurt you by things they say and do!

7. Attempt to change the discussion (refocus, redirect.) This does sometimes work with those who have dementia. If not, then make your excuses and leave.

8. Bring some little "treat" along, whether food/beverage item, special book, etc, that you know she likes. Focus is then on her and takes it off whatever she thinks is wrong/bad.

Although those with dementia often don't learn, repetition can sometimes work. If you draw that line with her (stop or I will leave/hangup) and follow through, it might eventually leave an impression. Someone mentioned it took about 3 months for their attempts to work! Final option is to reduce the number and length of visits. Stay STRONG!

Key take aways: Don't believe or dwell on her nasty comments and learn to walk away if she won't stop!
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I talked to her primary care doctor this week and he heard the recorded messages she left on my answer machine. He is going to reevaluate her and let me know what she needs.

Thanks everyone for all your advice and support. It means a lot.
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That is great news. I hope he can calm her down. You don't deserve the unnecessary grief.
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statewise: I am glad to know that her doctor heard the rather unkind messages that she left on your answering machine.
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Mom's primary care doctor office called today and stated that he will be going out to see her on Wednesday of this week.

Thanks everyone for your input and caring.
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I have learned from experience, the hard way, that abusive people very rarely change and become kind and loving and compassionate. So, are we to stand by and allow that abuse to make us miserable and destroy us, regardless who is doing it to us? Of course not. We have to stand up and say we are worth something and we do NOT deserve abuse and mean people in our lives. We must find the method and inner strength to remove ourselves from them in any way possible and never look back. I don't care why these people are "bad" - it is enough they are causing hurt and harm. They simply are not worth the time and effort and it is not your problem, anyway. So if someone is abusive to you, then YOU MUST REMOVE YOURSELF AND GET AWAY FROM THEM. Never allow anyone to destroy you and make you miserable. I endured this and it changed my life forever - the hurt, anger, and effect on me will never leave me. I did not deserve it. Now I will fight to the death if anyone ever tries to harm me again! You must look forward and leave NEGATIVITY BEHIND YOU. LIVE A GOOD LIFE WITHOUT THOSE ABUSIVE PEOPLE. DON'T LET THEM DESTROY YOU.
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Nomoreabuse May 2019
Thanks for making this point. Violence cycles and violent people, are in my opinion not likely to change. There is np reasoning w. them. No responsiblity for own actions and what hurt they send out. How it ruins.

I have an abusive elder mom and dad. They will never change. The same cycle has been going on all my life with them. Now they are old, and meaner by every year. They know that they hurt me but just don’t care. They also abuse eachother verbally. I divorced them, bc they only tear me down thats the only thing that is for sure.
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One you can walk away from and the other you would have to divorce .. abuse is abuse
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Nomoreabuse May 2019
I have an abusive elder mom and dad. They will never change. The same cycle has been going on all my life with them. Now they are old, and meaner by every year. They know that they hurt me but just don’t care. They also abuse eachother verbally. I divorced them, bc they only tear me down thats the only thing that is for sure.
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Sounds like she needs to be in a nursing home if she already needs some one to come to assist her 7 days a week.. and why are the grown children paying for this? I wouldn’t. The nursing home can do this for her and if she is drawing a social security check it will go to pay for the nursing home and if more money is needed then Medicaid can be filed on her behalf to pick up the rest but she has to be put in a Medicaid approved facility ...trust me I already checked into these things ... don’t drain your bank accounts.. also the nursing home rooms don’t have phones in them.. the patient would have to let the staff know when the patient needs to contact someone for something other than emergency ..
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You can calmly tell your Mother that you will not take the verbal abuse. If she calls and you answer and she starts. Simply tell her..I am not going to listen until you can speak nicely..then you hang up.
If she leaves a message and you begin to listen and you find it abusive delete it do not even listen to the full message.
If you visit and she starts say you are not going to take the abuse and walk out.

It sounds like you did the right thing, the difficult and brave thing to leave an abusive marriage. If you were counseling someone and they gave you the same circumstances between you and how your mother treats you what would you tell them . It does not matter if the abuser is a parent, a spouse, a friend or significant other. Abuse is abuse and it can not nor should it be tolerated.
Why place yourself in a toxic situation just because the abuser happens to share DNA?
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Good for you in leaving your abusive husband! Do what you have to do concerning your mom. Abuse is abuse.
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How sad you had to suffer abuse. I speak from experience when I say to you that no matter who it is that is causing abuse, and regardless of why, it matters not if it is God or the devil, NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT EVER TO ABUSE ANOTHER PERSON. If every attempt has been made to stop the abuse and it continues, there is only ONE SOLUTION. The person who is being abused must, must, must get the inner strength to do what must be done. They must find a way to leave the abuser behind - no matter who it is or the relationship - walk away, never, ever look back. If you stay, it will continue and eventually you will be destroyed. It may be the hardest thing in the world to do but with time comes healing and maturity and wisdom and some day you will look back and realize it may have been horribly difficult but it was the wisest and best decision you ever made in your life.

Never, ever allow another human to abuse you - they are not worth your allowing them to do this to you. They are sick, evil, selfish people. I learned this far too late in life but once I did, my life improved.
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