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Lives alone, has a small dog and cat, doesn’t eat much, lost husband 16 years ago and her only son just over a year ago. Has two granddaughters and a great grandson. I am her ex daughter in law and have recently been helping her after a fall that resulted in a broken ankle and a six week stay in rehab. She lives four and half hours from me. I have visited twice and will go again soon. She is otherwise healthy, no medications, some memory issues, poor nutritional habits, drinks boost to help.

Is she receptive to change or help? The isolation will increase the memory loss as socialization is vital. Would she consider a medication to help with her possible depression and loss of interest?
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nmurphy Jul 1, 2024
Thank you for your response.
I think she is, but it would have to be a slow process. I am not sure if she would consider medication for depression, and I haven’t suggested that yet. I am working on getting her an updated physical, and attending with her, if I can get her to do that. She changes from day to day in what she says. Today was, “ I think I feel better today,” but then won’t do the things she said she was going to do. She sits and watches TV all day.
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Is there a Senior Service agency in her area?
They may have Adult Day Programs that she could get involved in. They often also have people do "Buddy Calls" where Volunteers will call other seniors and chat for a while just to check in, make sure they are alright and just a bit of conversation.
Have you talked to the Granddaughters about grandma and what they are doing to help?
Who is her POA if she has one? Or who would be responsible if something happened and decisions had to be made? This is the person that you need to talk to if there is a concern for her well being.

As far as not "not eating much" if she does not expend a lot of calories then she does not need to take in many calories.
If she is not losing weight and not losing strength I would not be overly concerned how much she is eating. I would be concerned if there was no food or not enough food in the house.
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nmurphy Jul 1, 2024
Thank you for your response. She does have a few church friends that check on her. However, since her recent injury, which is healed, she stopped going to church. When they reach out she always says she doesn’t want visitors, isn’t up for that. Tells her granddaughters the same thing. When I tell her I am coming to visit she knows telling me no is not an option. I have set her up with a jitterbug phone, and I am having internet installed, and will set up two Alexa’s so I can drop in and check on her if needed. I will also visit as often as possible or when needed. I have had groceries delivered, including Boost. She currently has my daughter, her granddaughter as her POA, but I would assist as needed.
Not sure she would accept having buddy calls, I call her almost daily. She can be stubborn.
Kind of looking for guidance on how to initiate a conversation to get her to open up a little more. I can tell she wants to, I just don’t want to push too much and have her shut down.
She is losing strength due to not eating. She has plenty of food and keeps her bills current. I have sent her a walker and cane to use when needed. My next visit will be the weekend of July 12th, my daughter will be visiting with me.
Thank you again for your response.
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You are kind to support your ex MIL. I would imagine she is still deep in grief, which of course can lead to depression and isolation. Has she received any grief support? There are online support groups and therapists if she’s not able to go out. Her dog and cat are probably what get her up in the morning.
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nmurphy Jul 1, 2024
I am grateful that I can support her and my husband helps too. I know she is grieving but she says she doesn’t mourn?? She hasn’t received any support, will say she doesn’t need it, and she does not have internet yet, I am working on that, lives in a rural area, so it would have to be a home visit, but I am not sure she would even consider that. That is where I am looking for guidance on how to suggest some things without overstepping and having her push back.
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She must have been a good MIL. Mine...long story. Not sure if I would drive 4 hrs to help her if she was an ex. For one thing, my MIL would not have appreciate what you are doing for yours. When cordless phones came out, we gave her one so she did not have to get up and go to the kitchen to answer the phone. She never got the hang of it. You can't do for someone who won't do for themselves.
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I was thinking after reading your response to my comment...
I wonder if your friend is afraid she is going to fall again.
Maybe her friends from church could be a little more "proactive" in getting her out. Don't just call but go to the door, help her out to the car, give her support so that she is less afraid to fall.
I get it...I fell in January and I was quite nervous about walking on the snow and ice the rest of the winter and even now when it is wet I am maybe a little more cautious than I was in the past when I walk across the floor, or walk on a floor that looks like it is slippery.
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Please ask her doc to do a dementia screening test. It won’t give a definitive diagnosis, but it may get you started in that direction.

One of the things that comes up in dementia is a loss of initiative.

A sign can be lack of adequate nutrition. One needs initiative to get up and fix a meal.

Ability to carry out a process also comes up. Even if one has initiative, procedural memory becomes impaired. There are lots of steps to making a meal, or even just a sandwich.

All of these were some of the signs that my mother had in early dementia.

Good luck to you.
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The actual best help is to convince her to move into AL where she'll get all the help she needs.

You are putting in all sorts of "fixes" to keep her in her home so that she has the appearance of living independently or "aging in place" but you may not know just how much help she really needs.

First and foremost, if she hasn't assigned a PoA, and refuses to do so, then she is on track to become a ward of a court-assigned legal guardian (and from my personal experience, this is a good thing). This is because in order for someone to legally manage her affairs and make decisions for her when she no longer can, it has to be done by a legal representative. Relatives or ex-relatives don't auntomatically qualify.

"Some memory issues" is just the tip of the iceberg if you haven't taken her to get a cognitive/memory test at her primary doc. You will be adding all sorts of new things into her life that she doesn't want and won't be able to adapt to. I'm hoping it's not coming out of your pocket.

Truly the best thing you can do for her is to report her to APS to get her on their radar as a vulnerable senior. Please heed the advice of those of us on this forum who have tried what you are now attempting, all for naught.

If she is resisting visits even familiar local people, not eating much, then she may be having bigger problems than technology and long-distance caregiving can fix (and saying this as a total fan of technology solutions, myself).

Most of all if you are not her PoA, and no one is, you will eventually come to a point of frustration and exhaustion since her needs will only increase and she is becoming more stubborn and uncooperative (early signs of dementia). You are 4.5 hours away. It's not a long-term solution for her.
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I keep looking at this and thinking, am I going to be bugged by my girls when I just want to sit in my home and do my own thing? Some people do well alone. Its a good thing to like being alone with yourself. I am 74 and I am unmotivated. And its not that I don't have a house to take care of and projects I could be doing. Its just nice to do them when I am in the mood. 82, maybe her friend circle is gone either to death or to illness. You cannot make new friends after a certain point in your life. Those friend circles were made years ago. Me, its just me and hubby. We do everything together. I have a few friends I can "do lunch" with. Because of his hearing we do not socialize much. I am very aware if something happens to him, I will be alone. Especially, if the friends we do have are still couples. I am not a card player, not a game player, no puzzles for me. I crochet but not into crafts. Didn't do them before, not doing them after. Also, at 74 I don't eat much.

If my Mom had not gotten Dementia, I will tell you what she would have been doing most of the day, reading. My job would have been keeping her in reading material and making sure she got to Church. We would have had our weekly shopping day. Fridays we would be going out to dinner somewhere. If her widowed friends were still driving, she would be going out with them. But these were friends she had known for years.

Does MIL complain? If not, leave her alone. She maybe perfectly happy with her life. Just be there for her. Call to just check in. Visit and take her out.
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Geaton777 Jul 2, 2024
I think the OP is "projecting" what kind of life her Aunt should be having in order to be happy. I've done that with my elders. Sometimes it's hard to not do it.
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