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My mother has been difficult & challenging all my life, but I have always loved her dearly, because she's my mum. I have had decades of her always being ill, in pain, depressed, negative, injuries, allergies, food intolerances etc., and in the last 5 years frequent falls, injuries, attention seeking behaviour, manipulative, rude, self-absorbed, selfish, etc. My sis and I do alot for her and take her out, cheer her up, make her lunch etc, but she moans incessantly and takes her infirmity out on us. She is 80 and I've just had enough. She has drained/sucked the life force out of me. I am ready for her to pass on now, because her life sucks and mine is sadly heading that way. Any tips to help me thru this. I cd have years more of this. She has no friends, or partner and does not want to join any groups etc. HELP! Thank you.

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Two decades is enough. Your mother should go into care.
It is likely that she will find a good many people to chat with about infirmities; my brother used to tease and laugh that this was what they all did out at the Gazebo while they watched the ambulances come and go.

You have to take responsibility for enabling your Mom in her use of you. You needed to make it clear that you have a life. If she has done this two decades then she was 60 when she started. She was, given aging today, quite young at 60. My daughter and son in law, 62/70 respectively are out hiking and traveling.

If she has no friends and makes no activities that is HER problem. NOT YOURS. Stop making yourself responsible for being her caregiver and chief support counsel. You are a daughter, not a caregiver. You aren't responsible for anyone's happiness but your own.

I would suggest seeing a counselor for some help in breaking out of a habitual way of being that isn't helping mom and isn't helping you, either.

I am 81. My daughter lives three states away from me. I would NEVER do this to her. She is now in the best years of her life, free of her children having raised and sent through college. She will soon retire and hubby is already retired. This is her time to have a GREAT LIFE for herself, not to throw her body on top of my funeral pyre. What a waste!
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Goingbatty Mar 22, 2024
I do not believe that I am enabling my mother. She is autistic and so will not talk/mix with others and sadly refuses to go in a home. I do not enable her either, I leave her home when she is being a particular pain in the a*** and then I take a few days off from her. I have also cut down my visits to her. I do not wish to leave the burden of my mother's care to my sis who works extremely hard and so we share duties. She also has cataracts and can't see, so it wd be cruel if I didn't help. You say I am not her carer, but try telling that to an autistic person who is clueless about my needs, even if I point them out to her. YOU are aware that yr kids shd be living their best lives etc because you clearly understand a healthy mother/daughter relationship, my autistic mother does not have that foresight/understanding. I have two choices, I leave her be and I am likely to find her dead one day having fallen down the stairs etc or I share the duties of shopping, companionship, trips out etc with my sis and when my mum does die I have no guilt that I didn't do the best I could. Also on the rare occasion that I have been direct/blunt with my mother as you suggest, her behaviour becomes intolerable. Ie anger, sulks and so it simply is not worth adding the extra stress on myself. It simply is not as simple for many of us on this forum to walk away and live our best lives. My time will come, I am sure.
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I cared for my parents too. They are both deceased now. It’s the toughest job we will ever experience, regardless of whether we love them or not.

I would say to honor your feelings. You have valid reasons for feeling as you do.

Accept that you are tired of living like this and why on earth wouldn’t you be? Ignore anyone who doesn’t understand how you feel.

Think about it though. Did you know that this would be as difficult as it is before experiencing it for yourself? Probably not. No one can truly understand how much we are affected by caregiving until we experience it firsthand.

Please feel free to vent on this forum anytime you want. We have all vented from time to time.

Don’t push yourself past your limits. Take care of your own physical and mental health. Your needs are equally as important as the person that you are caring for.

Wishing you peace as you continue on your caregiving journey.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
I cd cry with your warm and heartfelt reply. I have finally after years found people who understand. I know my life cd be a whole lot worse, but both my boys are also autistic, my hubby of 25 years has just run off with a younger model and my mother, where do I even begin. Why do some people seem to have/live a charmed life and others simply do not get that choice? I had a long chat with my other siblings the other week and told them to step up(brother now sulking with me) and help more. I have told them I am burnt out. I told my sis I wish mum wd die, she was appalled 😬😬. Yep this yr I decided now is my time. I am doing more for me and choosing the things that bring me joy. Thankyou so much for your kind words 😊
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You can love your mom but not like her, and be deathly sick and tired of her being such an Energy Vampire. It's exhausting to feel responsible for making a person like this happy, because it will NEVER happen, no matter what lengths you go to trying! So stop trying, that's my suggestion. Pick a day a week to go over there and deal with her, take her shopping, listen to the histrionics, help her with whatever she needs help with, and then get out of there. Set down firm boundaries for yourself about what you will and won't do for her, and scratch yourself off the list for being her entertainment committee. That's up to HER not you. If she wants to stay home all day feeling sorry for herself, alone and bored, so be it. That's HER choice and has nothing to do with you. You let her know YOUR schedule and then stick to it like glue. Sorry, you're just not available in between times. What do you plan to do with yourself, mum?

You're right......mom may live another decade or more and wear YOU out before she wears out. What is YOUR plan to preserve your health and well-being in the meantime? You matter too, don't forget that.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Ah thanku so much for yr reply. When Jan1st hit this yr I did exactly as u suggested. I made the new years resolution that I wd set boundaries and see my mother less. I have stuck to it. Now when I leave her I get in my car, put some nice music on and then go for a lovely beach walk to get her out of my head until my next visit. I have asked all my siblings to step up coz I'm burnt out. On days where my mum is a particular pain in the a*** I leave early. I now don't engage when she goes on and on about pain. I change the subject. Thanku for yr words😊
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I very much feel this way. My mother is 75, and this could go on who knows how long. It’s daunting.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Yes, it is. Sending you strength and virtual hugs. Thank god we have this forum eh as none of my friends understand at all. They all have lovely parents and charmed lives. Ho hum eh!
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Yes I feel the same. And my mother has been saying for years that she feels like God wants her to suffer.
It's an awful feeling but it's normal.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Yes, it sure is tough. My mother too sees life as an endurance test. Even when she was young and able she moaned incessantly and was depressed. We couldn't be more different as people. Sending you strength and virtual hugs.
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yes, and I'm not even a day-to - day hands on caretaker of dad, as he is in AL. I'm a day to day manager, and I still feel that way as you mention.

Dad tells me regularly, that he just wishes he could die soon, and wishes he could take his own life. Sometimes daily he is telling me this. So, yes, with all the misery, I'm ready for him to pass too. You should not feel like the feeling that you feel is taboo, especially if your LO themselves wishes they could pass.

For me, I'm in my mid 50s still, but if I am in bad shape when older, I hope that advanced directives towards physician assisted end of life/ " suicide" are more advanced and available .....
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Oh you poor thing, that's tough hearing daily that yr LO wants to die. Yup I defo vote for assisted end of life/suicide. We don't let animals suffer, so why do we let humans?? I've already told my kids if I am in hosp when older I want a 'do not resuscitate' order. I want putting down. I don't want to live a shitty infirmed life for decades and I want my kids to have a life, an enjoyable one, not as my carer. Sending strength and virtual hugs to you.😊
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My mother is 99, yes, 99 and she is still making everyone's life miserable. It is all me, me, I, I.

Yes, I think it is time for her to move on to what is considered a "better place".

No guilt necessary for any of us, we have done what we can.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Hear hear. I am so relieved that like you, I do not feel guilty about feeling this way. I have done my time/porridge so to speak. When do we get a chance to live eh???
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And when your LO finally passes on, it is ok to feel more relieved than sad.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
I believe it is. I am so glad that I do not feel guilt for feeling this way.
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Yes, I’ve been ready for my 95 yo parents to go for a couple of years now. They are dying in tiny bits and pieces.They are wheelchair bound in a SNF. My father has dementia and colon cancer. My mother has heart problems and very bad arthritis and she has always had a miserable personality so it’s never been great being around her. She has a pacemaker so she will probably be lingering a long time unfortunately. I wish it was over and I and my sisters can move on.

I will not be grieving, just will feel tremendous relief to get this boulder off my shoulders. Their indefinite lingering has caused me undue stress.

I wouldn’t wish this situation on anyone.
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Starrann69 Mar 22, 2024
I feel the same way. My dad is 83 in heart failure and kidney failure. I brought him back to his home after he was abused at a rehab. He is 100% content laying in his hospital bed and having me be his assistant all day.

He is "healthy" for his baseline and honestly, I see no end in sight. He has a pacemaker and defibrillator so I am not sure how this will all play out. We have been home since early February. And to be honest it feels like I have been doing this for over 6 months.

I think it is the unknown that is making this even harder.

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To be honest , when moms in her normal health,for her and her mind. I kinda do think, is this ever going to end

Then when she has a set back, I think, oh crap I'm not ready for this!

So it's kinda changes day by day on her mood and health. And my mood, my sleep , exc..... Your mom sounds a bit like mine. Difficult!!!

I guess it's just a roller coaster of emotion!!

That's the stage I'm at, I suspect I haven't been toucherd enough yet. 😂
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Yes, it sure is a rollercoaster of mixed emotions isn't it. All my friends seem to have lovely parents and much easier lives, so I really miss having someone to xonnect with/offload to. Tough isn't it? Sending you strength and virtual hugs 😊
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Caregiving would be so much easier if we knew how long we would be doing it. And it seems like the whiners , abusers and b****y ones live long lives.

I find that those OPs on the forum who seem to get thru better caregiving than others are those who use humor and have boundries. You have to set boundaries, I did and didn't even realize it. I still do.

I get overwhelmed if I have too much coming at me. I need order and and cannot deal with chaos. When Mom did not drive anymore, we picked a day and thats when she did her banking, shopping and ran errands. We took her out with us on Friday for dinner. We met 2 other couples at BK. One couple was Moms age so she sat with them. We sat with the other couple.

Its going to be hard at 80 to set boundaries but you can use your age too. "Sorry Mom, but I find now that I am older, working 8 hrs a day and trying to get everything done on weekends is just so tiring I really can't do that for you anymore". Maybe when she starts on all her problems you can say "I know what you mean Mom. I am starting to have those problems too."

Do not enable her or disable her. Ifvshe can make her own lunch, she needs to. Stop trying to make her happy. She will never be happy. Her havingbmo partner or friends is her fault, not yours. You and your sister should not try and fill that void. Maybe split your time up with Mom. Sis has her one week, you the next. That gives u each some breathing space. Look up "gray rock method" Maybe you can use that with Mom, learnbto block her out. Or be honest "Mom I cannot take your moaning and groaning anymore. Its become a bad habit I cannot deal with anymore. If you want to see me, you need to stop. Because everytime you start, I am walking out. We try and nothing makes u happy. So, I am going to stop trying. Because after 20 yrs I finally have realized, your just not a happy person and I can't do anything about that.
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
Thanku so much for your reply. My mum is autistic, so does not/will not mix with others, join groups or make friends, go into a home etc. If I am more direct with her she goes into long sulks, gets angry, cantankerous etc. So I avoid this to protect my own mental health. Yes sis and I split duties each week. I have told my sis I am shortening my visits and seeing mum less, have told her to do the same, she has. I now make excuses and leave early if mum is being a particular pain in the a***. If she goes on and on about illness/aches etc, I just go silent and don't converse on this topic. She is noticing the shift in me (about time). I plan things with friends and my sis to bring joy into my life as much as I can. 😊
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My very difficult MIL finally passed about 5 weeks ago. I, personally, had been praying for her miserable life to be over for a solid year before she went.

Am I a horrible person for asking for that? I don't think so. Death is a sweet release, for many people. She had sucked the joy out of every person who was caring for her.

At her funeral, there was no real grief. We were all exhausted (and I didn't do ANYTHING but be a supportive spouse to my DH). It was closure so many of us needed.

In the time since she died, the relief and lifting of all of our spirits has been, well, almost embarrassing. People can and do outlive their 'sell by' date.

My Dh has not shed a tear. Has not said ONCE "I am so sorry mom's gone". B/C that would be a lie.

He's sorry she caused so much pain to so many people. He has some measure of sadness that HE couldn't 'fix' her, and couldn't cure whatever it was that made her so difficult. But missing her? No, he doesn't, and his OB and YS don't feel bad either.

There is a REALLY long post/thread about 'do you wish your LO would die" (something to that effect). Hundreds of posts on that.
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FallingWaters Mar 22, 2024
I think they deleted that - I couldn't find it this morning.
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My Mom was a handful for about 22 Years . She started with Multiple Operations - a Lot of it was for attention . Then had a major heart attack, Pace maker . Her son Passed Young and she checked Out . Multiple rehabs , Falls , Hospital visits - I couldn't Put My finger On it ? I would see she would check Out occasionally - she slept a Lot But she was able to Pay Bills and looked healthy ? Anyway I took care of her the Last Year of her Life - Visited with her February 2016 she seemed fine and then again May 2016 and was startled by the change as I Knew she was going to die . I always took the stance That she Made the decisions about her life and valued her privacy . I was there for her the Last 9 Months and in a way when they removed her from Life support I felt relieved . Her long Journey was Over and I felt she she felt free and Happy . I Guess the best thing to do is focus On you and your Life - set some goals . Enjoy her while you can because you never Know when they are going to make a U Turn or a nose dive and then you feel suddenly sad . I am sure your Mom appreciates you . My Mom and I had some Laughs in the Nursing home and watched TV together and she still had her sense of humor even with the dementia . You Just have to enjoy the good times because at some Point she won't be there and you will Miss her .
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Goingbatty Mar 23, 2024
I am glad you got to have some good times and giggles with your mum. That's so precious. Sadly my mother doesn't laugh. She sees no joy in life and has always treated it like an endurance test. We couldn't be more different. I make the best out of a bad situation, but sadly there will be little to miss. She truly has been awful, rude, self-absorbed, selfish etc for so many years that I simply cannot remember any good times with her. I feel sad about that, but also realise that's her doing not mine. I have a fab sis, lovely boys and a really good BFF. We laugh, we, cry, but realise that life is to be lived/enjoyed, not endured. We prop eachother up 😊
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You are not responsible for your mother’s happiness . Also stop trying to cheer her up . Try to go into “ give her what she needs” mode as much as you can and expect her to be miserable. If she is miserable on outings , don’t take her out , there is no point. Do online shopping for her . Have things delivered. There is no point in banging your head against the wall . People like your Mom only get more miserable as they get older .

And to answer your question ….yes, a lot of us feel or felt this way .
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AlvaDeer Mar 22, 2024
I SO agree, Way. I do not get this feeling that we can be happy all the time. Nor that we, as caregivers, are responsible to make our loved ones "happy". That is so impossible. Where did we ever get the idea that such a thing can be accomplished.
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Whatever you do that she moans about, quit it.

Lunch out is a moan? Bring lunch to her instead.
Moans about lunch brought to her? Bring coffee & cake in the morning instead.
Moans about coffee & cake?
Bring nothing.
Moans about you visiting.
Visit for a shorter time.

Your Mother can decide how she wants to live. She can choose to enjoy visits with her family. Or not.
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Thanku Beatty, that's exactly what I have been doing. When she moans for example about her aches and pains, I now go silent and refuse to engage on the subject, or I change the subject. My visits to her are shorter and less frequent. That was a new years resolution to myself. I am defo working on getting a better work/life balance. Sis and I whinge together and laugh about it when we can. Feels good. 😊
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You can’t change your mother. If she chooses to be miserable and not make the best use of the time left to her, that is on her.

You can only control your response. Don’t visit as often. Cut the visit short if it’s particularly miserable. Try to do one thing nice for yourself each day, it doesn’t have to be a big thing. It might help lift your spirits.

Hang in, you are not alone with these feelings.
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Yes, I am ready, and at 95, so is she. Mom has mid-stage dementia, so she hasn't been herself for awhile. In her more lucid moments, she asks "why have I lived so long?". She is very aware of how much her abilities and life has shrunk, yet she keeps a positive attitude, and for that, I am amazed and grateful. Still, I pray for God to take her before she descends to the later stages.
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I’m right there with you as I deal with my depressed, anxious, personality-disordered, 76 yr old mother. I am so done.
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Oh I here ya!!!

When I joined this forum , I honestly thought my 88 year old mom didn't have much more time left. Been doing this for 3 years.

Then hearing others stories, I realized my mom has an extreme Will to live and fear of dieing. Dementia, HBP, otoperosis, deteriorating back. Arthritis, but nothing that the doctors can't keep her going. honestly I'm realizing she may go on for a long time. I do wish I new that when I jumped into this gun ho, additude, I can do this and that, that I went into it slower. But I am glad I know this now.

I here all the time, oh your mom is so frail. They want to prepare me. I think I'm going to be well prepared because she my look frail, but she is also a very stubborn person
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MiaMoor May 11, 2024
Your mother and mine were cut from the same cloth.

Last autumn, my mum weighed less than 5 stone because she hasn't eaten properly since her stroke (she's over 6 stone now through drinking milkshake supplement 4 times a day). She had a major cerebral hemorrhage 13 years ago; she has severe COPD; and she has epilepsy.
How is she still alive?!
She had worked with the elderly most of her life and, instead of making her more accepting of the inevitable, she became afraid of death. She has no willpower to make herself do anything she doesn't want to do, such as eat, but she has enough to cling onto life! Just.

I will miss my mum, but I hope that she doesn't go on too long, or the dementia will take her completely before she has been laid to rest.
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In my world:
Life is everlasting; consciousness, like energy, is neither created nor destroyed.
When we "die," we change state - like water going from ice to liquid to gas.
It is not wrong to hope someone escapes significant misery.
My world changes when someone I feel close to dies.
Grief and release can occur simultaneously.

You and others may not agree. This is obviously just my 2 cents. Perhaps it will provide some solace.
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Anxietynacy May 4, 2024
That was beautiful ❤️
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Yes, I do also
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