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We have moved my mother out of assisted living to living with my sister, just a block from me. In assisted living she was awakened at 7:00 am everyday. When she moved she started waking up later and later. I think sleeping till 10:00 is acceptable, but my sister lets her stay in bed till 12:00.... which I think is wrong on a continual basis. Mom is very agreeable to whatever we do.

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If she is living with sis, let sis makes the rule unless mom's health is CLEARLY impacted.
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KatD81 Apr 2020
Yes. Very important to have sister's input and final say on this.
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A couple thoughts - was she also assigned a mandatory bedtime in the AL? Do you get the feeling that she has a reasonable opportunity to get 7 or so hours of sleep if she’s regulating her own sleep hours?

I’ve read that the “Magic Window” for length of sleep for age 75 and above, is 7-9 hours. Less than 7 hours or more than 9, is considered not as healthy.

Happy Dreams to her!
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gladimhere Apr 2020
Healthy elderly? My mom often slept 12 hours through the night. Then a nap of a couple of hours early afternoon.

Sure, routine is important, but remaining flexible, is more important.
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I think that in general people do best with consistent routines. Although none of these may apply in your mother's case some concerns I would have are:
medication schedule
continence/toileting
sleeping later in the day leading to being awake more at night
too much time in bed leading to decreased muscle tone - use it or lose it
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Actually, I can see why sister allows her sleep. I think the hours of sleep quoted is for someone not suffering fromba form of Dementia.

"They tend to get less deep or 'slow-wave' sleep, which helps to keep the brain healthy and refreshed. Even though a person with dementia may end up sleeping more than a typical person of their age – even as much as 14–15 hours a day – it is unlikely to all be good quality sleep.Mar 21, 2019"

Here is an article

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/articles/alzheimers-disease-and-sleep
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Yeah, whatever works for the caregiver and keeps the LO healthy, would be my goal. People who have dementia, often sleep more and more as they progress. If it's working, then, what would be the downside?
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What time is she going to bed?
If she goes to bed at 8 pm and stays in bed until noon 15 or 16 hours in bed without being changed is a long time. Unless mom is being changed during the night.
My Husband was pretty much on a schedule in bed by 7 (that was his doing at the start.) and I would get him up around 7 am and into the shower. He would sleep during the day in his recliner early on then in his wheelchair. But we would waken him for lunch and dinner and to change his briefs. (pull up then later tab briefs) All total he would sleep on average 12 hours a day and that progressed to sleeping about 20 to 22 hours a day as he declined.

A schedule is good for the caregiver for several reasons, the caregiver can get tasks done, plan when a visit from a friend might be possible.
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Sjcjuly Apr 2020
I agree with you a regular schedule is best if possible. Your routine with your husband is what we did for my Dad.
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My 96 year old mother is in assisted living with advanced dementia. She was always independent and sometimes doesn't want to be woken up. I think it depends on the person. If your sister is caring for her, you may want to let your sister decide on that one, as she is bearing most of the burden. There are ways to change diapers in bed and even clean people. They must be "turned" if they are lying in bed for long periods of time so they don't develop bed sores. If your mother is in hospice, you should make her comfortable. My mother likes to sit up in a wheel chair (she can no longer walk on her own) in a room with other people.
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The person caregiving the most should be the one deciding. No doubt a relief to know those hours will be some she won't have to be watching mom. If she's in bed she's safe and not getting into mischief. Let it go:-) And such rigidity at the assisted living! I'd never put up with that nonsense...paying money and people telling ME when to get up? No way. Especially at that hour.
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We had a routine with fairly set timing when my husband's father lived with us. We were both still working and there were caregivers and home health care people coming in and out. It was the only way to make it through the days. And, knowing what to expect was easier on my FIL. We wrote out a schedule of what was happening each day and left it by his chair. It gave structure to what had become a confusing and overwhelming and ever changing world. And it let him be as ready as he could be for what was coming next in the day.
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The longer she sleeps in the day time, the later she will want to go to bed at night. The last thing you/your sister needs is to wear out from your own lack of sleep...and... it's going to happen.
It is easy to let them sleep while you get things done around the house, but you are creating a 24 hour active caretaking job.
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In my honest opinion, your sister should decide since your mother is living with her. Perhaps she and you should be concerned about sister's sleep schedule since she is the carer.
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I’m inclined to support whatever works for the household they are in. Just like raising kids, you will have to weigh your own needs In in order to manage.
A facility has MANY concerns, so scheduled time would be very important to maintain each need of all residents.
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I think the caretaker must set the rules according to what the caretaker must do in a 24 hour period. Obviously the caretaker needs sleep and if there are certain things to be done daily, then that is the schedule which must be considered. If you are not there, and it is not harming you, best stay out of it.
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My 90 year old mother lives with me and takes naps during the day. She is alert and gets around with a cane for stability. I wouldn't think of trying to regulate her bedtime! Back aches, leg cramps and insomnia come to most in old age and makes it impossible to remain in bed. She doesn't bother me and visa versa. We're here for each other but, remain the boss of our own lives. So glad you care enough to ask....
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I believe I read,and had similar with my Mom age 95-age and dementia throw off their clock and eating habits.Their brain just stops telling them some things we all take for granted or are automatic.Safe and comfortable best overall you can do.Best wishes.
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