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I'd run a quick search on the Internet for your state to make sure but, I don't see why not either. MANY babysitters for children have been caught abusing them on tape...why not elder caregivers getting caught for stealing?? That is your proof. I'd sure do it!!
The question does not need answering, of course it is yes....morals come into this beyond it's legality. A decent carer would have no fear a camera would be there. Better still tell the thief there is a camera there. You would see a quick resignation, I would assure you. WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO???
I would not tell the cargiver that the camera is there UNTIL you have your PROOF. Once a caregiver is found guilty of a crime such as this, with your PROOF, she will be BANNED from the caregiver registry. We would want ALL bad caregivers BANNED so that they cannot continue their immoral behavior with another unsuspecting elder!!
Absolutely..... do it now... as a paid caregiver myself, I would hope there would be cameras for all of us... we have five shifts of caregivers at this home.... we really needed one when the one girl was there and then I wouldn't have had to go to the daughter and TELL her what was going on and not believed until it was almost too late..... get that camera rolling.... good luck and let us know what happens...
You are asking an intelligent question, and "I don't see why not" and "of course" are dangerously unconsidered answers. You are right to want to find out for sure. There are laws protecting us all from unwarranted invasions of privacy and even if you have reasonable motives for your activities, those laws can act on you in surprising ways. You don't want to bring charges against someone and get counter-sued, for example. So get the answer to your question from a source who actually knows. That doesn't necessarily mean you have to pay for a lawyer. There is probably an info line for such questions at your state's capitol, and online you can find some of the info.
We were told last weekby my MILs Dr. That we should set up nanny cams just in case because there in your home. So I don't see why you cannot video tape for whomever is care giving. Right now WE have a camera inmyMILs room so we can keep an eye on her. It's the best thing! Have a great day all!
@stfrancis2, it is perfectly legal to install cameras in your house and even outside (ie surveillance) as long as it's on your property. One thing that will help you is a colleague of mine did the same when she noticed that her dad had bruises on his face everytime she visited him. She set up a camera and what she saw was horrific. The caregiver assigned to her dad was beating him viciously. she has 4 videos of this woman hitting my colleague's dad relentlessly - a 90 year old bedridden man. She apparently was caught, posted bond, fled the country to Kenya but last month was extracted and is now sitting in jail without bond this time. So I would set up as many cameras as you can. If someone is stealing you need to know to stop them.
This is a good question, and one I would be asking myself very soon. I have in-laws in another state who have to have round the clock caregivers in their home to help care for my FIL who is paralyzed from a stroke. My MIL recently discovered that her set of fine silver had relocated itself from a hiding place in a closet out to a cupboard in her garage! (We believe it was put there by a caregiver so it could make a quick exit out with them at the end of a shift.) We *think* we know which caregiver, because we planted a "bait" bottle of special lotion that he said his mother uses, out in the garage, as if it had just been forgotten and left out there, and it quickly disappeared! No hidden cameras means we can't prove anything. And my MIL puts up with him because he is one of a few caregivers the agency has sent over that can actually transfer my FIL's dead weight from bed to wheelchair, etc. We are investigating this question as well, as we are several states away and worry constantly that they are being scammed and taken advantage of by the caregivers who come and go.
To attribute my answer, I had an issue with a neighbor letting her dog deficate on my yard which is illegal. I happened to stop by an apartment complex to check it out for future residency and the gal in the office used to be a state trooper. she told me I have a legal right to have cameras pointing outside as long as it's on my property and not directly aimed at the neighbor's house.
The other option I could see.... obviously you need supervision and care or she wouldn't be there in the first place. why not get one of the baby monitors with a camera for your "own convenience" and put it strategically where you can see meds and the patient. I would think you could video tape from the monitor.... if you happen to catch something, I don't see how that could be a problem. You could even mention a baby monitor without having to mention it is one that records images... I would still call and ask a couple of quick questions though to the right people to make sure, but I would think it would be fine.
Set up cameras, but a friend of mine set up cameras to catch a caregiver who was suspected of stealing meds. When the police showed up, the "caregiver" produces a prescription for the med that was taken and the cop could not arrest her. He said he had no way of knowing if it was her med or the father's med. Never mind that the med had been hidden from the caregiver in an upstairs closet in an unused bedroom. This happened in Alabama. Different states may have different laws. Good luck! It's sad, but so many ppl have told me to lock up EVERYTHING when we started having sitters come in for my mom. That is low. And it's not like you aren't stressed to the max already.
I would check with your local police, from the link above your state says all parties need to know. there should be a way you can set this person up, criminals are basically stupid. I like Idaho laws only one person and that is the person doing the recording. Blessings on you. ~M
Thats aweful. I say heck yes video. If I ever have to have someone other than myself take care of mom you betcha there will be eyes on those people. I used to do daycare and lots of the centers I worked for had cameras. It was weird at first because it was new but then I just did my job and loved those babies and forgot all about the cameras. I have to hide meds in our home because of one of my sisters. Long story another time. Sad. I hear it's common but so wrong. I reported my sister and the social workers from Kaiser asked all about it when mom went to the hospital once. I felt bad she could have went to jail but it's not ok to take them.
Dear StFrancis2, I believe you have all the right to install cameras in your home. You can install anything in your own home, even a spaceship if you wanted to. It's your home and u can do anything you want in your home. I've heard [as the others said above] that many parents do it for their babysitters. I also suspected one of my caregivers of stealing from us too. But I have no proof but I am sure she stole because we cannot find a certain item and it was there only days before and nobody else was here who could of stolen it. Then I started worrying what else she stole, did she go on my computer, did she get my credit card statements, personal information, etc...? I would not put it past her to have done those things since she went nuts on me toward the end. In the end, we fired that organization because this crazy CG was like Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde! She should of been fired from the organization because she truly has something wrong with her brain.....not dementia, but a sociopath or something like that! But at that time we were so pressured with everything else that sis just reported her to her boss about her actions with Mom and me and not the stolen item [cause we had no proof] but she did other mean and nasty things to Mom and me, and told the boss that she was the only reason you lost us as a client and not the other girls.
Yes it's legal to hide cameras, we have one in every room except the bathroom and it's all recorded. We caught wonderful caregivers asleep on the couch, and outside smoking. It is not legal to use audio in our State, check online for your info but definitely use cameras. Ours are hidden, no one knows and when I worked I could go online to check on them. I saw my mom fall once and called for help before the caregiver even called me, even the best aren't the best, this will show you who is best. I would do anything to make sure my mom is 100% safe.
Re: alwayslearning, I just simply thought my opinion as a little commence. If you smells smoke come our would be a fire....The homeowner wants set up those camera to protect thire love one's. I'm paid caregiver I really don't mind at all. I love to set up camera for my mobile home to catch what kind of creatures walking around my roof!!! LoL
I am currently working for a.parapelegic who has 12 cameras in and out with crowd every where his family has online access swell as the security company I think it's a great idea if they have nothing to worry about there would be no objection...
I know it is legal in Minnesota. As a caregiver it is insulting if done after you have been working there a long time and if you know you are honest. If possible people should have them set up before you hire the caregiver and then let them know before hiring that the cameras are there. Then the caregiver has a chance to decide if they want to work under those conditions. It could save you a lot of worry and time.
If you suspect the caregiver is stealing medications, dismiss the caregiver. If you can't trust the caregiver with the medications, don't trust them with the care of your elderly parent or family member. Get a replacement.
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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Good luck! It's sad, but so many ppl have told me to lock up EVERYTHING when we started having sitters come in for my mom. That is low. And it's not like you aren't stressed to the max already.
there should be a way you can set this person up, criminals are basically stupid.
I like Idaho laws only one person and that is the person doing the recording.
Blessings on you. ~M
I believe you have all the right to install cameras in your home. You can install anything in your own home, even a spaceship if you wanted to. It's your home and u can do anything you want in your home. I've heard [as the others said above] that many parents do it for their babysitters. I also suspected one of my caregivers of stealing from us too. But I have no proof but I am sure she stole because we cannot find a certain item and it was there only days before and nobody else was here who could of stolen it. Then I started worrying what else she stole, did she go on my computer, did she get my credit card statements, personal information, etc...? I would not put it past her to have done those things since she went nuts on me toward the end. In the end, we fired that organization because this crazy CG was like Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde! She should of been fired from the organization because she truly has something wrong with her brain.....not dementia, but a sociopath or something like that! But at that time we were so pressured with everything else that sis just reported her to her boss about her actions with Mom and me and not the stolen item [cause we had no proof] but she did other mean and nasty things to Mom and me, and told the boss that she was the only reason you lost us as a client and not the other girls.