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My sister has been in an assisted living facility for about 6 months. In addition to having dementia, she has been known for many years for exaggerating or telling "white lies". She claims "everyone" agrees that the food is inedible..."just awful". "I don't even want to eat anymore." I recall that complaints about the food were voiced when my mother was in a care facility 15 years ago. I'm suspicious that complaints about food are part of the "scene". If not, what's the best way to check up on the food other than spending mealtime there? (I think covid restrictions are still in effect in the dining facilities.)

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They could have made an activity out of complaining about the way the green beans were cooked in my mom's Independent Living Facility.

I think the only way of checking is to eat there yourself. Or to check the food safety ratings, if the municipality has them.

Think about the school lunches you ate as a kid. Were they primo food? No. Were they edible and nutritious? Probably.

Bring treats. Bring your parent's favorite food and have a picnic.
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My brother who was in ALF and I used to laugh so hard as we said it was like a JOB for those living in ALF to complain about the food. I saw the menus. The choices, the extra treats. He thought they did a great job. Were the vegetables always fresh instead of some canned? Nope. But overall a good job given it IS "institutional cooking" and there's no way around that. They would let the elders have other choices like a chicken salad when they didn't like the two choices. I would indeed go to lunch there. Tell the administrator why. Say you would like to sit in for lunch a few days, or dinner. You can then judge for yourself.
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we ate several times at my MILS MC, and the food was pretty darn good! We even had some "family meals" there in a private room for special occasions. However, when my Mom was in rehab, she was on a low salt diet,, nothing was going to make that taste good. Is sister on a special diet?
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My mom and dad went into assisted living in 2017. I would have dinner with them and a couple other ladies each night. My folks had been living on pop tarts and cereal for years. The food would be served restaurant style in the faux fancy dining room and mom would sniff at it and say I THINK THESE BEANS WERE FROZEN. Then clean her plate and dads as well. Ya gonna eat that? She gained 5 pounds in 3 months. The food was pretty horrible though.
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disgustedtoo May 2021
"The food was pretty horrible though."

Good thing it was horrible, imagine how much more weight she would have gained!

Also too funny when they're resorting to boxed crap and microwave dinners at home, that suddenly they become connoisseurs (food, cleaning, laundry - no one can do it like they can!!!)
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Negativity tends to breed, so when one person starts complaining no doubt "everyone" else pitches in too.
One thing that I found about the meals at my mother's nursing home was that despite appearing varied and tasty at first glance they were repetitive, so the little things that you might overlook the first few times can really start to become annoying when they are repeated over and over again. Its kind of like if you took all your meals at the local restaurant and there was never an option to have something off the menu, it can get tiring no matter how well prepared.
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LOL my mom's AL meals were a constant source of complaints. But the ladies were lining up 30 minutes before mealtime to get to their seats! Luckily Mom was not a picky eater.
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disgustedtoo May 2021
"But the ladies were lining up 30 minutes before mealtime to get to their seats!"

Oh yeah... don't get in the way or you'll get run over by a dozen walkers!
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IMO mealtime is a very good time to visit - usually there is a special table set aside for those with a guest, and when someone has dementia it is often a lot easier to spend meaningful time together without having to come up with topics of conversation.
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Is she on a restricted diet at all, such as low-salt? My mother griped endlessly about the food, but then she likes spicy Mexican food more than anything, so she was getting none of that what with her low-salt restrictions and an ulcer. I finally told them to get a bottle of mild salsa and put it on some of her food.

Also, keep in mind that as people age, they lose their ability to taste much. The last flavor to go is sweetness, so that's one reason why seniors tend to like desserts a lot more than salads and savory foods.

You might check with the nutritionist at your sister's facility and ask if your sister is on a restricted diet, and ask her what could be done to brighten up the flavors a bit.
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cweissp May 2021
Where mom is, some of the residents would buy some condiments they liked - dad (when he was alive) went for the salt substitute (Mrs Dash) and peppered everything to death (I remember-when much younger- I made a dinner which I actually slaved over, invited mom and dad and as he was reaching for the pepper I requested that before applying the pepper to please try it as I had already seasoned it - he wasn't happy but after tasting it he didn't pepper it to death either). You are right - the meals are on the bland side - mom had her flavored creamer.
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Isn't there a social media platform where people share pictures of their meals? Instagram or Snapchat or something or other (do I sound as if I know what I'm talking about?). I seem to remember a Scottish schoolgirl going viral a little while back, and then there being a gigantic to-do about whether she could or couldn't be forbidden by her school to post pictures of the catering...

Anyway. If your sister isn't up to taking an image on her cellphone to share with you, perhaps you could ask a friendly aide?

Food in all sorts of institutions tends to be pretty dire. I'd be inclined to agree with your sister first, and then do what you can to reconcile her reasonable expectations with whatever quality standard the facility commits itself to.
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It's the LAW for elders to chronically complain about the food in Assisted Living and Memory Care! My mother says she can't possibly eat the "sh*t" they serve her daily. Meanwhile, she's pushing 200 lbs. So guess what mother? You're eating SOMETHING, aren't you?

There are no COVID restrictions in most ALs anymore, so why not go see for yourself just how horrible, awful and inedible the food really IS at your sister's place?

Also, look up the EMPLOYEE reviews of the facility on Indeed.com. I did that yesterday and lo & behold. 90% of the reviews were from employees who were thankful for the FREE MEALS they were given while at work in the ALF! Now, if the meals were THAT bad, who'd be grateful for them? Nobody.

The other trick I have up my sleeve is I offer to bring my mother either a home cooked meal or a restaurant meal every Sunday. 90% of the time she says No Thank You. Now, if the food was so god-awful, wouldn't you think she'd jump at the chance for a home cooked meal to be brought to her on Sundays? I also have snacks sent to her from Amazon so there's never a valid reason for why she can't possibly eat.

Good luck!
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sjplegacy May 2021
I laughed out loud at your first paragraph. I love the sarcasm.
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The last time I had a meal in my parents ALF was just before Covid broke out.
My mom and I had chicken tacos w/ pico de Gallo. Dad had tomato soup and salad. The hubs had a mushroom omelet. Everything was made from scratch. The chicken was very tender. Everything was very fresh but not fancy. Everything was low sodium. No salt shakers on the table. This was a major upgrade from canned soups and packaged meals they were eating at home. They have all the fresh fruit they want, usually apples and oranges. My mom told me she had roast beef and mashed potatoes for Mother's Day and that it was pretty good. ALF is open but we cannot eat with them yet. What they have struggled with is low sodium or salt free meals. There blood pressure has improved.
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The posts pretty much covered what I was going to say, the food is not seasoned. No salt, no pepper, etc. This is the same with meals on wheels. And gaining weight, have you heard any complaints about dessert? I doubt that. Where my Mom was there with birthday parties every month and other parties to celebrate certain holidays. And snacks in the coffee room.
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Certain people can’t be pleased, no matter what! Others are very easy to please. You said yourself that your sister has always embellished the situation so I don’t think that I would take it very seriously.

When you can, go eat a meal for yourself to see. No telling when that will be though. Lots of places still have Covid restrictions. Some places here are only allowing 30 minute scheduled visits in the lobby.

If she tires of eating at the facility, can she order take out on occasion? I have a friend that his mom isn’t dissatisfied with the food at her facility but she tires of it occasionally and her son has the staff order take out from nearby restaurants.
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It’s hard to change your go to topics of conversation for the uninitiated.
As others have said, it’s what they talk about so she might feel better if you join into fussing about the food instead of trying to prove her wrong.

I would be concerned if you were having to buy smaller or larger clothes, if her blood work was off or other obvious signs something wasn’t working.

I remember reading one of these type posts about what to cook for parents and one of the posters said because of the parents desire for sweets, the poster just sprinkled a bit of sweetener on everything. No more complaints.

My dad once commented that my moms cooking was enhanced by his inability to smell. He got in trouble for that crack. He appreciated a visually appealing plate.

But having made light of her complaints it is of course important that the food be all that it should be. Perhaps you could ask for a dinner to go if you can’t join in. Ask your sister what her favorite dish is and what she thinks would help. It’s good to be heard about something that’s important. Easy for us to dismiss when we have lots of choices.
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disgustedtoo May 2021
I don't think OP's goal is to prove mom is wrong to mom. It sounds more like she just wants to confirm that the food is okay and it's just what those with dementia do best (or sometimes just elders without dementia!)
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More than likely, most of the residents complain because it doesn't taste like things they used to cook. And probably not the things they cooked. Seasoning is probably the biggest complaint, in my opinion. Take them a baggie with Mrs Dash, salt, pepper or other condiments you remember them using. They can keep in their room or carry to the lunch room to season to taste.

One funny about institutional food - a friend LOVES to eat any and everything they serve at hospital, rehab, etc. Scrambled eggs, cereals, etc at breakfast. Will select these things herself from their menus. At home. Nope. Refuses anything that she requested herself at the facility. Even got her one of their menus to let her pick things because she ate so well in facility. At home, she hates every single item on the menu.
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Meals where my mom is were ok when I'd have lunch with her - not great but not awful - better than I remember from primary and secondary school). Of course that hasn't happened since COVID began. Mom's facility is open again to visitors, however visits are either outside or in the apartment only.

If sis is complaining and you are able to visit at mealtime but can't visit the dining room see if you can't have meals delivered to her room so you can dine together and therefore be able to determine the quality of the food..

Complaints are common in facilities and mom has mentioned others there complaining; and has complained herself from time to time. Recently she says the meals are a lot worse. I would think the meals are regulated by the state to meet nutrition standards - however that doesn't mean they are edible. Plus there is repetition of the revolving menu that may only be changed seasonally. Mom isn't a picky eater and does eat the veggies - and is surprised by the number of residents who don't eat their veggies.

I've never been a fan of where my parents chose to live, it's one of the cheaper options in the area and was at one time owned by the church but has since been sold to a for-profit corporation. The best part of the facility is the number of friends my parents had there and I knew growing up. Such good memories. But many are now moving on to other facilities because of dissatisfaction with what is going on. The for profit corp is horrible, you can't contact corporate and the staff gets into trouble if they provide how to contact.

Mom who over the last couple of years (since dad's death) has been adverse to moving out, now at the last visit asked when she was moving - which I put on hold for numerous personal reasons. Mom's facility is 22 miles - 25 - 30 minutes away. She is upset about numerous things going on there including the food which she says now is not good.
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The best way is to taste what she's eating so Check and see if you can visit at mealtime, you should be able to now.
My Dad has dementia and he doesn't seem to like much of anything if it isn't sweet.
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A couple of things to keep in mind: complaining about things binds people in an US VERSUS THEM way. It gives the residents something in common.

Secondly, as we age our sense of taste diminishes. So the greatest chef on the planet couldn't fix that.
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Before the pandemic, I was able to feed my mother when I visited her in her memory care facility. She's no longer verbal and can only eat soft foods, and has to be fed, but she's still eating. Institutional food is never as good as homemade food. I tasted her breakfast once and it was not something I would want to eat, but it's keeping her alive. I was interested to read the comments below. I've also noticed that older people lose their sense of taste and develop a sweet tooth. Sometimes people with dementia also have difficulty swallowing and chewing (like my mother). Some people in my mother's residence also have to drink thickened liquids due to the swallowing difficulty. Is your sister losing weight? If her weight seems OK, then she is probably eating despite her complaints. Are you allowed to bring her special treats when you visit (like ice cream)? I wouldn't go overboard with that, but if she can have something special once in a while, maybe she'll feel better about the food.
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My parents were in several places and they complained about the food in all of them. I ate meals at all the locations and do admit one of them had horrible food. The rest were fine.
Other than eating there yourself it is going to be difficult. Perhaps have the facility pack up a "to go" order for you and pay them for it.
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Spending mealtimes with your sister is the only way you can evaluate the food. I doubt the food is inedible. However, your sister may be used to a certain level of "spicing" that may not be used. Most facility food tends to be a bit bland - less salt, less sugar, no hot spices... Tasting the food can let you know what if different from what your family grew up with. My husband and I make up "man boxes), sauce and spice boxes or baskets of favorites for every couple that gets married. Maybe your sister needs her own "flavor box/basket" with her favorite sauces and spice mixes to sprinkle/douse food so it tastes more like home.
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Ricky6 May 2021
I agree with Taarna. When I would spend time with my Mother during meal times, she ate more and I would taste some of her food as well. It was not gourmet, but decent.
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Don't EVER EVER EVER downplay food issues. I speak as a young senior (65 in November) who succumbed to some bully types when hospitalized last fall for a dissected aorta into going to rehab due to going home to no help...when caregiving for my elder parents. I'm here to tell you the food WAS HORRIBLE and worse. I haven't had the energy to write it all down, send in an official complaint to the state agency that handles them. Look, when you're well, it's bad enough and you're paying for it; when you're recovering good nutrition is essential. Mine was so bad I lost my appetite and told a friend any fast food meal would be healthier because at least I might eat it. You might want to check on line for the local board of health and see if they do regular inspections and that might give you something to go on, but not on taste or appeal. IT does give people something to talk about, but I'm sure they'd rather talk about something else or how good it is. My aunt still spends a fortune on groceries and stuff she can make or snack on, and what she doesn't eat goes down the disposal or to her daughter who finds some of the items acceptable....
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mdasse773 May 2021
Totally agree. My mother’s mcf is good. The chef takes pride they follow Mediterranean diet and then every 2 weeks they do a special lunch they order in from local pizza or deli etc. My mother doesn’t love it but she doesn’t complain much.
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(Side note: your sister is so lucky to have a sister like you!)
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As someone else posted.... "it's against the law not to complain about facility food".
The state regulates the nutritional value of the the food in registered facilities so it is probably the preparation that sets off most of the complaints. It is almost always low sodium because so many residents have HBP. Then there are the many other conditions the kitchen has to deal with - thickened, pureed, mechanical soft etc. and you see how it can all slide downhill. The only way you can really evaluate what she is talking about is to actually sample the food yourself. You might still have to wait though because the facilities have some leeway in following the state dept of health guidelines. Our local facilities are just opening their dining rooms to residents only this week. Families have to schedule their 30-45 min visits and they are either outside or in the rooms. Maybe they can bring both meals to her room so you can sample the dish.
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My mother does not really complain about the food at her assisted living residence. She does mention a lot of repetition. My own observation is that the meals are very heavy on carbohydrates (potatoes, especially) and don't include many other vegetables, fresh or not. I was also informed about the changes in an elder's ability to taste food. The residents have the choice to order off a "sub-menu" so that they could have a salad or something else instead of the main offering, but I don't think many do that. They just eat what is provided. As other posters have pointed out, it is truly "institutional cooking" so you cannot expect very much. I'd pay attention to your loved one's weight. If they are not losing a lot of weight (unless they have an underlying condition), then I wouldn't put too much stock in it.
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Riley2166 May 2021
The facilities are wanting to save the bottom dollar - don't want to spend - budget is too low and far too much pasta and similar stuff because it is cheap. I hate eating institutional food and since I am able to, I drive to the store and buy a lot of my own food - not right but I want to eat something I like and which does not make me ill. But I am an exception - don't know of anyone capable of doing that.
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This answer is pre-pandemic. I wouldn't be so dismissive about complaints that the food "is just awful". Institutional food is just that -- institutional. They make big batches. I love the commercials for assisted living that show tableclothed tables with beautiful linens and china settings. They make them look like 5-star restaurants. At nursing homes, just forget it. I feel terrible for residents.

My Mom was in a so-called 5-star Medicare rated facility for rehab and they refused to let us eat with her or even sit with her in the dining room. They claimed "privacy concerns". What privacy? Residents are eating for God's sake, not getting a physical! My Mom was supposed to get help eating, but that never happened. Because she needed special assistance, she was always served last which meant her food was either tepid or cold. Who wants to eat cold food? Then when we asked for it to be reheated, we were met with eye rolls and even slower service.

My mother was eating less and losing weight.. The nurse said she wouldn't eat. Really??!! I personally observed aides (from outside the dining room window - I was outside the facility) ignore my mother when they were supposed to actually be sitting there feeding her. They were chit chatting with each other instead of the task at hand. Then they proceeded to push her back to her room. Right after they pushed her back to her room, I went into my Mom's room and found her disheveled and dilerious. She had a 102° temp and no aide even cared or noticed. I called the floor nurse and raised holy hell. It was ridiculous! After that, I insisted her meals be delivered to her room and my brother or I fed her. We reheated the food in the microwave in the common area or brought frozen dinners for her to make sure she ate. The nursing supervisor on that unit had the audacity to say they wanted to start her on a medication to help her appetite (she had no issues with appetite before entering their facility) because she wasn't eating. I told her what I observed (on numerous occasions) that the aides were ignoring and not feeding her. Of course, she's losing weight. She's not being fed! Not to mention the fact that there are generally 2 aides for every 30 residents. That's 15/1. Dressing, toileting, feeding, bathing. It's impossible. LPNs and RNs won't help aides under any circumstances.

So don't be so quick to dismiss complaints from residents, even if they have dementia. Cold crappy food is cold crappy food. Would you eat it? That's why it's SO important to keep visiting and advocating for your loved one. They can't do it themselves. They are treated as one of a number of warm bodies in an institution. If you think they are going to get the same loving care as they would at home one on one, you will be sadly mistaken. A nursing home is the end of the line. My mother was only there for rehab of a broken leg. She was healthy and eating well at home. She had osteoporosis. She died after 3 months in "rehab". I'm sorry I sound so bitter. It was an awful experience I wouldn't wish on anyone.
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Riley2166 May 2021
After l3 years in assisted living, I assure you of this - they are understaffed, overworked and not paid enough. Most have horrible attitudes and get annoyed when residents need or ask for help. The few that are wonderful are far and few between and as a result the residents can suffer terribly and nothing changes.
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I wish I could send you pictures of the food my mom has been served during the pandemic. It would shock you. This is from a facility that looks like a country club. I don't know why people trust these facilities. I have a camera because it is a necessity in this industry. I believe sometimes people want to believe the lies these facilities tell about their "dementia" residents so they can absolve themselves from taking action to hold the facility accountable.
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School lunch, hospital, airline food ... no one could expect that institutional food is the greatest.

if she is complaining about the food, and not the care, that is what’s important.

Maybe you can drop off one of her home cooked favorites or order her delivered food once in a while.

Now that 50% of Americans are fully vaccinated. You should be able to share mealtime together soon.
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Sarah3 May 2021
Except an AL isn’t an institution such as a hospital, nursing home, etc. With the expensive cost of an AL people don’t expect to have to then pay extra to have decent food delivered, who can do that anyways more than periodically w what’s left over paying them. They’re not covered by insurance to my knowledge so this industry was created for profit and naturally only the wealthier in society can and will pay for a hybrid senior home meets hotel. They’re for profit so there’s definitely a motive to keep costs high, find reasons to charge extra for things that should already be included and pay the least they absolutely have to for staff
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First, don't take as 100% what your sister says about the food. You can always talk with the care staff about your concerns. Ask them for a menu or when you can join your sister for lunch or dinner. Mom complained all the time, but always cleaned her plate, and told everyone (except me) that the food was great.

Does she have diet requirements or is she on just a general diet. Look into how and what the menus are and listen to the staff. I found that many times I got better information from her caregivers about this kind of thing than I did Mother.
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I have to be l00% honest with you. I live in assisted living for l3 years and it is considered one of the best. In all truth, the food is HORRIBLE. Everything is mass produced and is done with costs and bottom line in mind. You will NEVER, EVER GET DECENT MEALS in an institution. I don't think that ever happens - maybe there are a few special places that cost a high fortune but the majority will NOT serve good food. They have to adhere to state guidelines which, by their nature, overcook food and make it taste horrible. There is nothing anyone can do - it is just a fact in facilities. Thank god I still drive even though I will be 88 and go to the store and cook it myself using my microwave as I don't have a stove. I have figured out how to make some nice meals that I can eat and enjoy. It is very hard and I don't do it every day but at least I eat good food cooked my way and I am not sick all day in the bathroom from eating overcooked meat and food. She is telling the TRUTH. There can be a few nice meals but most are geared to the masses and are not good to eat.
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Riley2166 May 2021
I forgot to tell you that due to my very high functioning level, I bring food problems to the attention of management and follow up in writing - I do NOT go away. I want the issues fixed but unfortunately not a soul gives a dam and the horrible food continues. But I am NOT going to give up. It is horrible the way some stuff is prepared. Others just grumble among themselves but no one speaks up - except me. Doesn't make any sense but they are afraid to say "boo".
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