My mom, almost 94, lives in IL, with help from myself, and home making assistance. She has her natural teeth, but they are in extremely poor shape. A new dentist last year recommended that she have them all pulled and get dentures. Her primary doctor said that the surgery would be too much at her age. So she waited, as was relocating to IL, which was extremely tough. Now it’s 6 months later, and her teeth are worse yet. What do others do when they are too old or too frail for full dental extractions and dentures, but their teeth are all decaying very rapidly? I will accompany her to see a new dentist in 2 weeks. It feels like a no win situation. Afraid of oral infection developing. Her health is good for her age, but becoming frail. Weak, poor appetite, depression, weight loss, walks just a little with a rollator and help, macular degeneration.
How have others dealt with this dilemma? TIA.
I would ask the new dentist how to best prevent infection (mouthwash? Sealing her remaining teeth?).
Are you considering moving your mom to higher level of care?
It seems like this must be a major issue among many old or frail seniors. I wish there was a guide book.
Somehow I dread what may come in the future.
Surgeries are out, I would suggest. Get professional advice. But after what she went through.. especially at this age.. seek other alternatives.. Yes, I know, blood is blood, and tooth decay infection can affect the heart.. so pulling the teeth out? can they just give her antibiotics? which can cause other issues... This is like juggling... don't drop one, or the others may drop too...
my friend told me the coconut oil is good for the gums. swish it around and rinse. makes your mouth and lips moist too. she does this routine daily for 20 minutes, and her plaque has gone away.. look up on the internet. I am tryhing it now since covid, I need to find a new dentist.
At 94 the ER doctor who saw my mother would question WHY.. SHE IS 94.. Put her on blended foods, use the sponge swabs you find at the geriatric store, and keep her happy. Does she want to go through getting her teeth pulled and hopefully no infection after that?
After the seizure and all that.. for just a cleaning.. and my aunt has issues, I didn't want to do that. Blended foods.. sponge swabs..
Mom's dentist retired, and new one came in... One day, I looked at mom, and she looked frantic. HER MOUTH WAS FALLING APART, SHE NEEDED ALL THIS STUFF DONE... WHAT HAPPENED? She went to the "replacement dentist:". He needed to put VENEERS on her Molars, in the back of her mouth... COME BACK NEXT WEEK.. She does, and now he is working on the other side of the mouth... WHY? Well you need veneers for them too, and the others are not done...??
WHAT THE.........I said no,MOM YOU COMING OVER TO MY DENTIST. My dentist said why does anyone need veneers aka coverings for the back of the mouth?
This NEW dentist had an office full of elderly patients, waiting for him... (the poor patients had no clue- should have told them )I found his car and held myself together... REALLY WANTED TO BASH HIS BMW or PORSHE FROM front to back end, and back again....dont remember what it was, and don't really care. a car is to get from a-z and back safely.. no matter the distance... who really cares what it is, looks like, or drives like, just as long as it is safe.. seriously...
This man did not deserve to have a license for dentistry or other medical profession. I hope he learned his lesson and is better with geriatrics....
everyone ages differently. but the few things that stick in my brain are:
blood travels throughout the body. Mouth infections are bad, and translates to the blood. So ask her primary doctor if there is anything he can suggest or prescribe.
The other is do not trust a college student pracaticing dentistry without consulting another dentist.. You do not want mom ending up paying for a car she will never drive.
TRUST YOUR GUT
She needs a POA FOR HEALTH AND FINANCE. If not you, then who?.. Don't answer here. It's for you to ponder... who is closest phyiscally and emotionally?... I bet it is you.
Don't push the tooth cleaning until you find a dentist you trust.
The mouth is a gateway to the rest of the body. Unchecked infections can causea myriad of health problems, one of the worst being rheumatic fever that can infect the heart valves. Also kidney disease. The list goes on.
Dh had a liver transplant 14 years ago. Before ANY dental work, he takes a 'push' of antibiotics to protect him. he goes to the dentist every 3-6 months. The transplant docs were absolutely insistent on this. It was already a 'thing' for me--every kid had a checkup and cleaning every 6 months. All 5 had braces. Knowing how sick you can get from unchecked infections made me absolutely fanatical about good hygeine.
I'd have the worst teeth pulled and work from there. No, you don't 'want' dentures, but it is amazing what can be eaten with few teeth.
And, like getting a car fixed, get different estimates and dxes before you go forward.
No way I was going to put her through weeks of agony and the dentures would have been lost on about day 2.
I was able to find her old dentist who did some minimal treatments, grind off some sharp edges. If was a major improvement for her.
As it turned out mom died a couple months later. She would have been right in the middle of that horrible process during her last days.
I see a couple similarities between your mom and my mom.
My mom is 95 with Alzheimer's. She has all her natural teeth as well but, has Periodontal Disease. My mom is in fairly decent health too for her age but, frail as well. She's weak, little appetite (has lost about 28 lbs), has beginning stages of Macular Degeneration and the facility memory care director thinks she may be depressed. I'm not sure about that part but, hospice and I have decided to try a very low dose of an antidepressant this past week.
Prior to the pandemic, I would take her to our dentist every four months for the special periodontal cleaning. At that time, she was mobile and I did get her a rollator just to start getting her used to it in case she wasn't able to walk.
Now that the lockdown has been in effect since March and she did nearly die from severe dehydration and COVID, she no longer has the ability to walk and I can't take her to the dentist anymore. I provide her with her favorite toothpaste which is Sensodyne and recently decided to try the Perodontax. I finally emailed our dentist telling him my concern that I can't bring her in and asked for his advice/suggestions.
So he told me to buy the 3% Hydrogen Peroxide which basically are all the ones you can buy directly over the counter (others have 10%). He wanted the facility to have her use the peroxide as a rinse 2 - 3 times a day for 1 minute to keep the bacteria levels down and prevent an infection/dental emergency.
Honestly, at this stage of her life I can't imagine having all her teeth pulled. It's expensive and can be very painful which would be traumatic and the aftercare would also have to be followed to a "t" so she wouldn't get infections. But, that is strictly my own opinion - I could never put my mom through all that.
Several years ago, I had just one tooth pulled. The dentist didn't even have the strength (she was a female fill-in for my male dentist) to get it out. It broke in so many pieces. I was in my late 40's/early 50's and it was awful!
One of my mom's brothers had all his teeth pulled simply because he didn't want to take care of his teeth but, he was probably in his late 50's/early 60's.
I hope you can find a reasonable solution to you and your mom's dilemma - good luck to you both!