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I grew up with a brother who struggled with addiction for most of his life. I cared for him in his later years until I couldn’t do it anymore. Sadly, he wasn’t able to maintain his sobriety and died.



It was so confusing to me as a child. I was only 7 years old when he became an addict. My brother was an adolescent in when he became addicted.



My parents didn’t even drink alcohol. None of us, my other brothers or I had any addiction issues.



I have spoken with my therapist about this and he said that we saw the damage that addiction caused in his life and vowed that we would not allow this to happen in our lives.



My therapist also said that he has seen it go the other way too, where siblings or children of addicts follow in the footsteps of family members and struggle themselves.



Anyway, I just finished watching ‘Bill W.’ on Amazon Prime. This is an excellent documentary that I highly recommended watching if you are interested in this topic.



The story of William G. Wilson, the founder of AA is told beautifully in this documentary.



My heart goes out to all who struggle with this disease. It’s a disease that not only causes them pain but will also affect everyone in their family, their friends and people in their workplace.

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I joined this group years ago as caregiver for my late brother, who lived alone. He had a traumatic brain injury followed by intermittent dementia and mobility problems. His lifelong alcoholism got worse after the brain injury.
Our father suffered from alcoholism, as had other male relatives going back generations. I dodged that genetic bullet because my "brake" was built in: Too many drinks made me feel bad. Not so with my brother, father, grand-uncle, etc.
As a caregiver I tried (imperfectly) to support him through his brain-injury medical issues without enabling his alcohol abuse. This meant constant decisions about boundaries, e.g., what's loving, what's fair, what makes things worse? ALANON helped a bit.
My brother died in 2021, and I still miss him. But I don't miss those constant decisions.
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NH, I'm sure it was difficult for your family & you seeing this as a child. Recently lost my 2 best buds (guy friends)to drug addiction.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
It certainly was difficult and extremely confusing to me as a child.

I am so sorry for the loss of your friends. We feel so helpless in these situations.

If an addict isn’t sick and tired of being sick and tired, they will not agree to entering rehab.

Sometimes, they are in deep denial like my brother was. It’s terribly sad to witness.

For some, it’s incredibly difficult to understand. Addiction is a disease.
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We joined Nar-Anon Family Groups. www.nar-anon.org

It saved my sanity and changed me for the better.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Yes, I did this too. Having support or just knowing that we weren’t alone helped so much.
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No disagreement here. Sugar is an addiction. Carbs convert to sugar as well. OA = Overeaters Anonymous, a lesser known offshoot of AA is a 12 step program using all the same principles. Many suffering lifelong food addictions h.ave benefitted. As with other addiction, the desire to change and coming to the end of onesself is a necessity.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Our outlook on food has changed throughout the years, don’t you think?

Years ago we didn’t even have junk food. People exercised naturally just by doing their chores. More people walked instead of driving everywhere

Exercising regularly and is so important for maintaining a healthy lifestyle.
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many will disagree however since I've been care giving for my sister who is a non compliant insulin diabetic I have come to the conclusion that non compliant insulin diabetics are ADDICTS,
These individuals need access to rehab centers just like bulima and anorexia individuals to receive psychological counseling, exercise programs, kitchen and menu planning skills, better hygiene and more.
i have proof that while she lived independently her A1C went from 6.8 to 11 because her aide and a friend brought her treats to make her feel better. She had a $200 + groceries delivered which was heavy in sweets and junk food.
She is now leaving my home after 6 months of recuperation after 3 hospitalizations which she & her sweet providing friend have called a prison with me as warden. Her A1C is now 6.8 her glucose readings are stabilized, I have been doing her laundry which is daily due to her incontinence and colostomy, neals and driving to dr appointments at least 3 times a week.
I'm so looking forward to her leaving and having her friend pick up what i've been doing.
i've made plans to take a short vacation in the next few weeks. BTW i'm working parttime, have maintained weekly outings with friends and recovering from a major hip muscle injury -- but I'm a prison warden
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Sugar is absolutely addictive. So is caffeine.

Enjoy your vacation!
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Addiction has woven its way throughout the tapestry of my family story and it's a beast. Below is just a small portion - the portion that affected me most.

Growing up, my parents were teetotalers. This was mainly because my mother - who had witnessed her own father's mean behavior toward her mother when he drank - told my father that she would not live with a man who drank. So that was that and thankfully, my childhood home was alcohol/addiction free.

But that didn't stop me and my brother from watching my favorite aunt - my dad's twin sister - descend into the hell of addiction to pharmaceuticals. Her doctor prescribed Valium in the 60's for her "nervous breakdown" - back then it was a new drug and docs were handing it out like candy. She was told it wasn't addictive.

I remember watching her lay out her pills into 4 piles that she would take that day. She was also clearly psychologically addicted.

She had a wonderful job with the railroad and they checked her into a cushy, expensive rehab center in the 80's. One weekend my dad picked me up and we drove to visit her. I vividly remember being there. I watched the residents light their cigarettes by sticking them into a hole in the wall. My aunt was unable to get clean - maybe that wasn't the point - I don't know - but I do know that when she was released, she was taking Elavil instead of Valium. And on it went.

She struggled for the rest of her life until she died at 61 from complications brought on by years of taking pills.

The impact that it had on me was profound. I vowed then to never take any sedatives or anti-anxiety pharmaceuticals.

I do believe that addiction is genetic in part. I tasted my first alcohol - wine - at a Christmas party at the age of 14 and I loved it immediately. My twin brother also began to experiment with alcohol when he could get his hands on it and he loved it more than I did.

We both drank our way through high school - when we could manage to get to a party - then college - then into our twenties. I met my husband in college.. He came from a family of raging alcoholics. At the time, it didn't seem to be that serious of an issue to me.

But as I've said many times, it's all fun and games until it's not.

We married and started our family. (I did not drink while pregnant or nursing.) We hung out with other young parents who drank and it was all fun and games. Lots of kiddos running around and the adults sloshing booze. Major damage was being done.

Then one day after being wretched and worried for awhile, I woke up. I never drank again. My husband began to despise me and refused to join me in sobriety. Eventually he left me, divorced me and drank his way into alienation from our children (their choice) and death alone in a motel room at 60 years old after losing literally everything - his children, his health, most of his money, his most recent job. He was found a few days later by the motel manager.

And now we have my dear twin brother who also drank his way to an early death at 60 years old after years of suffering from the effects of alcohol abuse. Almost the same trajectory as my ex-husband, interestingly. His cancer doctor once told me "it's his addiction...you need to let him have it." Seemed cruel at the time, but he was correct - I was becoming codependent.

I could go and on and on about the devastation that addiction brings to not only the addict, but to the people who love them.

One thing I've learned is there is no way to help an addict unless the addict wants it badly enough. We can't love them into sobriety. We can't lecture them into sobriety. We can't threaten them into sobriety.

Peace to all who suffer from addiction and from loving an addict.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
You told this story so beautifully by explaining so well how addiction occurs.

I am so sorry for your losses due to addiction.
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My cousin is finally in 12-step (3 years) after a life of multiple addictions. He is estranged from most of the family and dealing with serious health issues. I have made the decision to start including him in family gatherings again. This isn't easy, but it is what his mother (my beloved aunt) would have wanted. We do what we can to help, but need to protect those who depend on us first and foremost. Including ourselves.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
I’m glad to hear that your cousin entered a 12 step program. I wish them much success and future growth.
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I had an uncle from my mother's side who suffered with alcoholism. I was too young to know Uncle Ben. When my mother still lived at home, she would invite her friends over. When her brother returned home from a bar, he would barge in to spoil her fun, but my mother would tell to him to go into his bedroom. She told her friends to ignore him because he was ill. He eventually died with liver disease.
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My daughter called me this afternoon and was upset. Apparently, a childhood friend of hers is struggling with alcoholism.

Her friend has gone into rehab for her alcoholism. Sadly, she is going through a bitter divorce with a custody battle over her two year old daughter.

Even worse, she has started dating a guy who she met in rehab, which is never a good idea. Plus, this person had a problem with alcohol and heroin.

My daughter feels that they are both still using and has decided that she can no longer be friends with this young woman who she’s known since childhood. It’s so sad. My daughter wishes her well but doesn’t want to be around her friend’s new boyfriend.

It’s very common for people to relapse and it usually takes a few attempts in rehab before a person is able to regain sobriety.

I have found that most people who have never experienced addiction don’t realize how terribly hard it is for a person to stop using. It’s so frustrating for them and their families.

I know that I had a very difficult time believing my brother when he would become clean. I was always waiting for the other shoe to drop.

I desperately wanted to believe that he could once and for all get clean for good. Sadly, that day never came for him. I’m always delighted when others make it to recovery and are able to remain sober.
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Since we lived with my grandparents when I was a kid, I saw alcoholism in my grandpa. I loved him and he was the father I never had and he was a great guy, but he also was an alcoholic and wasn't "there" sometimes because of it. They had 4 kids, my mom the oldest. She's addicted to food and spending. Her oldest brother mostly just did Marijuana. The middle one, also food, and the youngest is a mean alcoholic we aren't in contact with. Because of all this and losing a boyfriend at 18 due to his driving drunk, I have always been careful about alcohol. I actually don't like to feel drunk. It makes me feel not in control. I like a glass of wine or beer occasionally for the taste. I have never done drugs. I did smoke heavily (as did my mom and uncles), but quit in 1999. I have struggled with disordered eating and some food addiction in the past.
Heredity makes me probe to addiction so I have tried to be careful.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Absolutely, genetics can play a role in this disease. Addiction is a disease.

I am glad that you are aware and careful about drinking too much.

It is interesting how some of us are very careful since we have a family history and others sadly fall into following the same path as their family members.
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When you open a subject like this, Need, you will only see the tip of the iceberg replying. It is such a personal subject. Few want to think on it, and fewer really want to share something so very personal.

I once asked my Dad about longeivity in our family and he replied "I don't know Kid. The women seemed to live, but the men all drank themselves to death". In his late middle age, struggling to deal with the facts my brother had just "come out", my Dad himself began to drink too much. He pulled himself out. Stopped cold one day and never had another drop; lived to his 90s.

My brother and I laughed all our lives about the fact that if we were not such control freaks we would have surely been alcoholics. We loved what alcohol did for us. By nature almost monklike and reclusive, alcohol could free us to enjoy other people. And I saw pretty early on the allure. It's just that I was so terrified of being out of control I couldn't allow myself to "go there".

I think there is a thin line between using alcohol and drugs to "loosen up" or to "medicate what hurts", and tripping on OVER that line into being lost. I have a deep respect, a deep understanding, and a healthy fear of alcohol given my family history. During Covid my partner and I decided just not to bring it into the house, tho theretofore we had enjoyed a glass of wine at night. Just this feeling. Don't know how to say it. This deep knowledge that a glass goes easily to a glass and one half, to two, to a bottle a night. And then where???

Since man began he has fermented things to drink, to "take off the edge". Has used plants to deliver him from himself into a world of dreams and freedom. There's just nothing new here. And we all have stories of friends and loved ones who battle the bottle bottle, the pill bottle, whatever form "deliverance from real life takes".

As always, need. An interesting subject.
Annit, thank you for more to your story. You were there for your Sis. Over and over. If she hid things from you it was because she knew you were there for her and didn't want you to have to be again. You were a good sister as you are a good daughter, wife, granddaughter, foster-mom and aunt. I am so sorry for your loss. And Need, for yours as well.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Alva,

You have brought up some very interesting points.

I do agree that some people would prefer not to speak about these issues and I certainly respect everyone’s privacy.

I would have appreciated having a place to speak openly about what was going on in our family when I was younger.

Or at least having someone explain things to me. Children are intuitive and I knew that something wasn’t right. Sometimes, I feel like knowing the truth isn’t as hard as wondering what the truth might be.

I don’t ever want anyone to feel as I did when I was younger. My parents treated my brother’s addiction like a huge secret that I was never to speak of.

No one should have to be afraid or ashamed to talk about addiction in their families.

They didn’t know how to handle addiction back then. I have a lot of respect for the founder of AA and publicly speaking about his own experience with addiction.
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My grandfather was a "drunk". There was no word Alcoholism when he was alive. He was born in 1893. Its hereditary. And like everything else, some are predisposed to it, some aren't. My Mom was his daughter and had 4 kids. None of us became addicts. My Mom's sistervwas different. Her oldest was in a bad accident in the late 60s and became addicted to pain meds and overdosed. Her sister overdosed on alchohol and uppers. Her son is a recovering alcoholic and he was a violent one. He has been sober about 20 yrs.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
You’re right, JoAnn. People have struggled with addiction throughout history.

There is a genetic component.

So many people have this situation in their families or they know others who have it.
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Many people swear to high heaven they will never be like their parents and then they become them. This is particularly true with addictions.
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My sister had struggled for years. I think she started out using cocaine and pain pills in 2004. She sobered up when she found out she was pregnant with her first daughter. She was doing very well until she met and started having a relationship with an addict. At that point she became addicted to heroin. She started moving place to place, became homeless at one point, and started living with my mom for a short time. Of course with all of these moves and help were from me. I honestly didn't realize at the time, how bad it was and of how much I was contributing and enabling. She became pregnant with her second daughter and again became sober. She ended her relationship with her boyfriend and again was thriving and doing well. She and the girls lived with me for a year until she found her own place and reunited with the youngest's father. She finally ended that relationship to get into another downward spiral relationship. She kept her distance from me most of the time and would keep our meetings short, while picked up the girls to come to my house. I didn't know she was using again, and I didn't realize the severity. She hid it well until around 2018 and I noticed changes in her. Everything was a sob story and a long winded excuse. Her appearance had deteriorated. In 2020 I received a phone at work from my son that my sister had been stabbed. Her boyfriend had tried to kill her. I left work immediately, went to the hospital and then picked the girls up from my mom's home. She recovered and moved in with me with the girls. I was able to get her into rehab and she had been sober for almost three years. She was doing so well. She landed a respectable job, bought a car, and rented a nice home.We had so many conversations and she swore she would never do it again. Feb. 20 she decided to do it once and it took her life. As in coping, I'm not sure if I did so well. Looking back, I should have noticed more, tried getting through to her. I just should have done more. Sorry for the long winded response . I wish I had better advice. I think when we're in the moment and things are happening, we just do the best we can for what we're dealt. I hope someone else has better answers in how to cope.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Annit,

Your sister’s story is heartbreaking, just like my brother’s story was. I’m so sorry for all that you have been through.

It’s an ongoing struggle for an addict. They can be doing well but the temptation is always there beside them.

Lord help them if they run into friends who are still using, because one slip sends them down a spiraling path again.

I saw my brother overdose more than once and it is something that I will never forget. He destroyed his health by using drugs for so long. His lifestyle caught up with him and he died from liver failure.
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Absolutely! I grew up with it on both sides of my family. I joined Al-Anon at the grand old age of twenty-four years old and have been a member ever since. I witnessed various addictions in my family not only with alcohol but with prescription medications and street drugs. I joined Nar-Anon when my sister got hooked on a street drug. I practiced detachment with love. It had gotten so bad that I bought a bunch of materials from Hazelton about women and addictions. I gave them to her to read. She struggled a bit, but eventually sobered up.

It was a lonely existence, and I became the one in the family that everyone leaned on. Eventually, I did shed that role as the family caretaker and scapegoat. I'm still a loner and even more so since the pandemic. I wrestle with this a lot. I can imagine being the sole caretaker of an alcoholic parent in their later years. It is a lot of baggage to contend with.

I would urge anyone to join Al-Anon. Recovery is a life long process. I'm still learning about myself even at the grand old age of sixty-five. Just take it a day at a time. Whatever you are dealing with, just remember; "And this too shall pass." Just do the best you can one day at a time.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Scampie,

Thank you for posting. You will definitely understand what I have been through with my brother. He was addicted to heroin. His best friend introduced him to it at a very young age.

I have also been to Al-Anon and Nar-Anon. They helped tremendously along with therapy.

I am 67. When my brother was struggling, it was a ‘hush hush’ generation where such things were not commonly discussed. There were no groups for children to participate in. I went later on as an adult.

As a very young child I would be waiting in the car with my mom and brothers, while my oldest brother went into get his methadone.

Mom told us that he was getting medicine. I knew something was off, but I didn’t know what. Kids are intuitive and sense things.

He would get clean off and on. He even owned a successful business at one point in time. When he had an awful accident, he slipped back into addiction trying to cope with his pain from his serious injuries. These situations are incredibly sad, aren’t they?

I am glad that I watched the documentary about the founder of AA. It tells a lot about his personal life and is extremely interesting but it did bring back certain memories for me that at times I would rather forget.
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Alcoholism runs in my family, it is passed down from generation to generation.

Neither my brother or I are alcoholics but we both married them.

There is a 50/50 chance a child of an alcoholic will either become one or marry one.

An addict will be an addict all their lives, it is just a matter of whether they are sober not, that is it.

Enabling is the worst thing we can do, if they don't falls to their knees they have no chance of getting back up and becoming sober for life.

Not my rules, just how it works.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
I wholeheartedly agree with not enabling. It’s tough dealing with family members, spouses, friends or colleagues that have addiction issues.
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My now 41 year old son is a recovering alcoholic. He struggled with it for years. His father(my ex-husband)is also a recovering alcoholic. So I know first hand the devastation it can cause in a family.
It's one of the main reasons I moved from WI with my children who were 9 and 11 at the time, down to NC so they could no longer be hurt by it/their father.
And when my son was very young he would always say that he was never going to be like his father, but sadly years later he became just like his father.
It was heartbreaking to say the least. But thank you Jesus both my ex and son are now sober and have been for a good while.
It wasn't until I quit enabling my son and turned him over to God, that he finally got the help that he needed to get sober.
And it was Al-Anon that made me aware that what I thought was "helping" my son, was actually hurting him because I was enabling him. Boy, once that light bulb went off there was no turning back for me, and the enabling stopped pretty much cold turkey.
And the rest is history.
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NeedHelpWithMom Mar 2023
Thanks for sharing this story. It will help others. I’m so happy to hear that your son and ex are in recovery.
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