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It depends on lots of things, but Occam's Razor says that the simplest solution is the best and paying her for those three days would surely be simplest, no?
Have you setup a caregiving agreement? What does it say about paid time off? Does caregiver live with you? Have you spoken to an elder law attorney about how to protect your wife should she ever need Medicaid?
we pay our caregiver as if she was on salary. She gets the same reliable weekly amount. Sometimes family visits have interrupted her normal schedule but that is on us. I want her to feel secure and she is so loyal-we return our loyalty to her. It is a blessing to have someone like that.
This is a freelance caregiver hired on your own, so be careful. Without the agency, you are responsible for your employee's tax and other payroll deductions. Also, think about worker's comp insurance coverage if she gets injured on your premises.
I definitely would pay her. We paid our privately employed caregiver while my mom was in the hospital for a week. If you can if would certainly help her and help keep her for your wife.
Yes. You pay her the same wages. It is no fault of hers that her job is going to be away for three days. I had a policy when I was still taking private care cases. If a client went into the hospital it was full for two weeks. If in that time it wa determined that they had to go into rehab or a nursing home for a period of time I'd always make the offer to the family that if they wanted to keep me when their LO gets released I would accept half pay while they were away. Often I'd take other temporary work in the meantime. Since you're only going for three days, full pay if your aide is good and you want to keep her.
Definitely pay her. It's expensive but it's worth to keep her if you like her. Most working people get "paid vacations" once in a while. This will be one for her.
I had a similar situation years ago with my mother. She was diagnosd with West Nile fever. She was hospitalized and then in a nursing home for rehab from the end of September to the middle of January. My sister and I chose to keep our wonderful caregiver and paid her for the months my mother was away from home. She went to be with my mother every day until my mother was discharged. She took care of my mother until she passed away. If you have someone you trust and is a good caregiver, I would pay for the days you have to be gone.
When I worked Elder Care, although I worked through an agency, if my client went on a little vacation--the family quietly paid me under the table. They knew that a vacation for mom was ALSO a great break for me. They didn't want to lose me, after looking for 3 months for a companion.
No, it probably wasn't 100% legal, but since my company paid neither OT nor vacation and I never got a raise---my client's family 'tipped me' out every month so that I was making a decent wage. (I was paying off my DH's enormous hospital bill from a liver transplant. Do you know how long it takes to pay $25K when you're making $9 an hour???) I l also had a second job and it paid considerably more. I STAYED with my client b/c I truly came to love her and knew I was making her life much more 'livable'.
Yes, it's good for her morale too! Does she do cleaning jobs at your house? If so, perhaps she could do some deep cleaning while you're away (like maybe take half days off and you'd come home to a sparkling environment).
You need to consider liability insurance. Suppose she falls during the trip? I do not know who pays for these things - or who is legally responsible. I am self-employed (care provider / care management) and I have presumed I'd be financially, and otherwise, responsible for myself should I get hurt on the job.
The more I read here, the more confused I am. . . Oh - YOU are taking YOUR wife to the Mayo client. Now I get it...
I would pay her for the time she usually is there, depending on how long she's been with you / in your employ. Or you could offer her a % of her regular pay.
If you have a caretaker that you really like and trust, I would definitely pay them while you are gone! I have already made that decision and told my caretakers the same! I can’t pay them vacation or sick time but if I take my father away for a few days I’m definitely going to pay them. Like someone else said it will boost their morale but I also think it shows that you are treating them like a professional! If you are their main source of income, they need to be able to rely on that money coming in!
If you can afford it, then pay it. You want to keep good help. Or if you don't mind her being in your house when away, let her do a little cleaning while you're gone. Even better, just think of it as paid holidays for being a good employee.
Geodav: Imho, you should pay your caregiver for those 24 total hours for the time that you will be away. If you would hate to lose her, then the caregiver deserves the payment.
I’d to add that if as a part of her caregiving situation is that she also regularly gets her meals - perhaps 2 meals a day - provided to her in your home, give her a smallish gift card from a grocery store or a restaurant.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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If it's through an agency does complicate who actually gets paid for not working.
But like Countrymouse said, keep it simple.
It is the same like workplace closed for a day or two due to unforeseen circumstances, employees are still paid.
Paid caregivers need a break just as much as any other caregiver.
I had a policy when I was still taking private care cases. If a client went into the hospital it was full for two weeks. If in that time it wa determined that they had to go into rehab or a nursing home for a period of time I'd always make the offer to the family that if they wanted to keep me when their LO gets released I would accept half pay while they were away. Often I'd take other temporary work in the meantime.
Since you're only going for three days, full pay if your aide is good and you want to keep her.
No, it probably wasn't 100% legal, but since my company paid neither OT nor vacation and I never got a raise---my client's family 'tipped me' out every month so that I was making a decent wage. (I was paying off my DH's enormous hospital bill from a liver transplant. Do you know how long it takes to pay $25K when you're making $9 an hour???) I l also had a second job and it paid considerably more. I STAYED with my client b/c I truly came to love her and knew I was making her life much more 'livable'.
Being generous never 'hurt' anybody.
I do not know who pays for these things - or who is legally responsible. I am self-employed (care provider / care management) and I have presumed I'd be financially, and otherwise, responsible for myself should I get hurt on the job.
The more I read here, the more confused I am. . . Oh - YOU are taking YOUR wife to the Mayo client. Now I get it...
I would pay her for the time she usually is there, depending on how long she's been with you / in your employ. Or you could offer her a % of her regular pay.
Gena Galenski
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