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Mom has lived with us for 25 years, and we can no longer care for her. She is medi-cal and medicare in San Diego County. How do we get her into a nuring home with endless waiting lists that never advance?
Try looking beyond your local area/county for a facility. There are open NH Medicaid beds in every state but you will need to plan on driving out to it. I'm in the New Orleans area and Medicaid beds in Orleans parish (we do parishes rather than counties) in a facility that I'd find acceptable for my mom are pretty well none existent. Anyplace that is even marginally acceptable is now private pay. I'd have to go across Lake Pontchartain to find a nice Medicaid accepting NH - which means 1 - 2 hr drive. That may be the reality of what you need to do, which could mean going up to La Jolla (my late MIL lived in that area ages ago).
You know once you get them into a facility and through Medicaid acceptance, it is pretty easy to move them as far as paperwork is concerned. So you can continue to keep working the waiting list at the local easier to get to NH and then move her back into your homebase area. Good luck.
Igloo gave you excellent advice. We often have to choose a home that is more difficult to access but will work at least for a time. Then you can place your mom's name on a list for one closer to you if you choose. I hear from people in more populated areas than my community and they often have to travel quite far. But even in my own community, we sometimes have to choose a home that isn't our first choice. I will add that moving someone isn't easy, so you may decide to stay with the one father away if your mom is happy. It does seem like that's your only choice if she can't stay with you until there's an opening. Good luck - we're with you in spirit, Carol
My mother was a resident at a NH 2 hours from where I live. She transitioned from the rehab directly into the skilled nursing area. So, that part was easy for me and her. I did look into NH near me and yes, there were waiting lists, but she was already situated and I could not find one nearly as nice as the one she was in - so she continued to reside there.
As mentioned in above post - you most likely will have to go outside your area. My mother lived in a resort area - where many elderly retired. Due to this fact, it appeared there were more NH available to provide care for the numerous elderly in the area. Good luck - and wish you the best.
We faced a very long wait in our county when looking to place my mom, but the next county had only a two week wait! It's a 20 minute drive, but well worth it! Best of luck. ♥
I work for a nursing home in Central California, Yes some NH have waiting lists especially if the person if coming from home. However, if she were to go to the hospital for a 3 day stay, lets say for tests ? Then her Medicare would kick in and usually they have priorty for spots. Most NH only have a small number of straight medicaid beds available and that is why such long waiting lists. Medicare patients usually come in the facility for rehab and then stay if the rehab does not work. When calling a NH be sure to tell them that she does indeed have medicare part B and medical as well this can also speed things up also, most counties are going into managed care for medical and some for medicare. Not all NH takes all of them and not all managed care will pay for skilled nursing for more than a few days. This also can delay someone being admitted. Good Luck to you.
I am experiencing something similar as there are 2 year waiting lists for the nice homes so I am torn abt what to do. The care isn't as good and his move into a NH is a huge transition but the staff doesn't seem to be that motivated. I'm new to this so learning the ropes. My father has had a managed care policy but has to go off of it to get rehabilitation thus we have to wait until the 1st of the month. This is all heart wrenching.
We have found that these managed care policies are great until you get sick. Some have large co pays starting after day 14 and it goes up after day 20. When a lot of our seniors rely on just there medicare they think hey I could use this extra money each month that I don't have to pay for medicare which is all good till some has a fall and then must go to skilled nursing for a while.Most don't have $5000 just laying around just waiting to pay co payments. Good Luck to you both.
What is NH? I'm from Canada. I keep seeing NH everywhere on the site; but can't figure out what it means. At first I thought New Hampshire. But, I figured, surely not everyone here is from there. lol
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
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You know once you get them into a facility and through Medicaid acceptance, it is pretty easy to move them as far as paperwork is concerned. So you can continue to keep working the waiting list at the local easier to get to NH and then move her
back into your homebase area. Good luck.
I will add that moving someone isn't easy, so you may decide to stay with the one father away if your mom is happy. It does seem like that's your only choice if she can't stay with you until there's an opening.
Good luck - we're with you in spirit,
Carol
As mentioned in above post - you most likely will have to go outside your area. My mother lived in a resort area - where many elderly retired. Due to this fact, it appeared there were more NH available to provide care for the numerous elderly in the area. Good luck - and wish you the best.
stay if the rehab does not work. When calling a NH be sure to tell them that she does indeed have medicare part B and medical as well this can also speed things up also, most counties are going into managed care for medical and some for medicare. Not all NH takes all of them and not all managed care will pay for skilled nursing for more than a few days. This also can delay someone being admitted.
Good Luck to you.