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I have been going out of my way to accommodate my 84yr old mother food requests. I am understanding about taste buds issues of the elderly. My mom will ask for food to waste it. Then turns around within 20 min asking for something else. She remembers wasting the other food. She also refuses to eat leftovers. We can't afford it and I'm over it after 2yrs of it.

Eighty four and no dementia asking for food every twenty minutes. Momma has you trained.

Stop the madness. No one gets snacks every twenty minutes not even kids.

Keep a steady supply of crackers and canned soups, and tuna, luncheon meat. Meals would be three times a day. If she decides to complain and feed it to the dog, that's on her.

Telling and threatening you are mean and she is going to tell everyone you are mean, I would find a nice place where she could live. Mom is not in charge of your home. You are in charge. It is not elder abuse to take a stand.

I spent $300.00 dollars on groceries for myself and I still don't have everything in the house that I need. Sure, it's easy to holler you want to eat every twenty minutes when you are not footing the bill.

Who listens to Teepa Snow. I'm with Burnt on this one. Send Teepa the bill. While you're at it, I'll include my bill also! LOL
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This is a September post
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Dont cook in teflon pans or using plastic utensils. Serve smaller portions. Freeze food and reheat without using a microwave, make sure its sealed air tight when you put it in the freezer. Dont tell her you are reheating it, if you get busted tell her its a frozen dinner from costco or something. Older people have lots of quirks. If she knows why she wont eat the food then she isnt telling you because she dosnt want to hurt your feelings or offend you. But she may not know why... Also try serving ginger to clear her pallet before a meal and it will also calm a tummy. And lastly try increasing or decreasing flavor. Ask her how to cook things or for her recipies. Make sure you dont over cook meats. Overcooked meats are awful. When she does eat something ask her what she liked about it. This might clue you in as to why she doesnt eat other items.
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MargaretMcKen Oct 31, 2024
Probably NOT "doesn't want to hurt your feelings or offend you". More likely a control freak.
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Having read your replies, including the fact that your mum doesn't have dementia, I think you should tell your mum that you have neither the money nor the time to make her different meals. Either she eats what you cook, or she goes into alternative accommodation.

If there is nothing wrong with your mum - she's just old, but an adult nevertheless - then she should understand that you're not there to wait on her. She's lucky you are looking after her at all.

If your mum continues to make your life miserable, then you should part ways. There is no good reason to make your life worse for the sake of hers.
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Stop doing it as it clearly isn’t working. Who cares if she throws a temper tantrum or whatever you are afraid will happen.
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Cally, I have read all the posts and your responses, I would start taking pictures of what you serve your mom and what she wastes, then I would tell her that you are tired of the threats and you are going to call APS and ask for help to have her placed somewhere that she can be taken care of since she, obviously, doesn't think you are doing a good enough job of it.

I am just curious why you haven't told her to stuff her nasty threats and why you put up with someone that is all there, according to you, threatening your very freedom, because senior abuse is taken seriously and she is risking your life with her lies. Grow up and tell her that her free ride has just ended and her hateful a$$ is going to be placed for her own well-being and your life.
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Brandee again--Can you sign her up for meals on wheels? In my town they deliver one hot meal a day at lunch. It is very popular in my area. I go to my senior center for exercises and they serve the same meals for lunch as the meals on wheels meals and they look and smell pretty good. We usually get 30-40 seniors filling up the tables each day.
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Cally, does she qualify for food stamps (SNAP)? That would at least help your family budget.
The food banks in my area have no income thresholds so that might be something to check into to help your budget.
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It was somewhat the same thing with my grandmother in the 3 yrs before she went to the NH. Mom would get her something and she would eat a few bites of it before putting it aside or put in on the floor for one of her cats to eat.

As was the case with my grandmother, it could potentially be dementia or Alzheimer's at work.
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Cally2024 Sep 23, 2024
Her mind is actually really pretty good. She's no more confused or forgetful than I am
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They have protein shakes you can buy in the grocery store. That might help her from getting malnutrition.
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Cally2024 Sep 23, 2024
She wastes those as well. I bought her the expensive ones too. I appreciate the suggestion anyway though
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You give choices when you can - not when you can’t. When it suits your schedule and you have time to deal with the dementia you decide where your line is. We are not waiters and waitresses and this is not a restaurant. Lord knows we spend enough time making decisions, paying bills, ordering supplies, overseeing care, managing the healthcare system, and on and on. I bring the food, feed it to her if necessary, and make sure she gets adequate hydration. If she doesn’t eat, that meal is history and on to the next one. I am only concerned if it goes on for days - then I suspect a UTI or other problem and seek outside medical help.
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Cally2024 Sep 23, 2024
No she actually does te opposite when she has a uti and is confused. Then she eats excessively. I guess because she doesn't remember eating and doesn't pay attention to if she us full. On the regular is when she wastes. Also she doesn't have dementia. She isn't anymore forgetful than I am. She isn't confused unless she has a uti
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My mum was a fussy eater to the point where she stopped eating. What she liked one week she wouldn't like the next.
Keep things simple. As someone else said, either your mum eats the meal you have cooked for your family, or you give her something very easy, such as a small bowl of tinned soup and a slice of toast, or a boiled egg and soldiers, or cheese on toast.

As someone else said, only give small portions and give more if requested. Otherwise, it goes into the fridge for the next day, or frozen for another time.

Taste buds die, so taste changes drastically. Furthermore, cells in the brain die, including those that process taste.

I suggested to my mum's husband that small portions of food be frozen so there's a selection to choose from at a later date. Or, because he could afford it, buy ready meals that don't take any effort for him to heat and serve.

Don't worry about your mum getting a balanced meal, or whether she has enough veg or protein. You just want to ensure that her hunger is satiated.

If she doesn't want to eat much, I would respect that.

If you are in the UK ask about getting her prescribed meal replacement shakes, if the fussiness stops her eating. If prescriptions aren't too expensive in the US, do the same.
Then present your mum with a choice of a meal she likes or a shake
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Give small portions and allow her to ask for more.
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Just say no.
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Cally2024: Cease pandering to her every whim regarding food.
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At her age, she probably doesn't need to eat much at a time.

Try small portions. And snacks.
For instance;
half of a cut up apple,
a small yogurt
a handful of crackers
a jello or pudding cup
a cup of soup in a mug

pay attention to the things she does eat to see what her preferences are, and give her that most often.

Try making something like a smoothie, or a protein shake if she is more likely to drink something.
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You need to stop thinking of her as an elderly parent and instead as a spoiled toddler. That’s essentially what she is. If she doesn’t eat what’s provided, she can go hungry.
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asfastas1can Sep 20, 2024
It may sound harsh, but you are correct. We have had to put our foot down on my 95-year-old mother's requests, some of them obviously outrageous. We are not wealthy, but we do our best to accommodate her wishes, but now it has to be within reason. Remember, spoiled toddlers eventually grow and learn, but our elderly parents are no longer growing up and they are regressing in their critical thinking and definitely no longer learning when they reach this point.
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Think about it like this. Do most people humor a spoiled, fussy child who demands something different to eat every 20 minutes but if it's not exactly how they imagine they want it someone throws it away and starts again?

The answer is no. No one does this.

Same logic applies to your elderly mother.

Now the part about refusing to eat leftovers. If she refuses to eat leftovers, she's not hungry enough. Don't serve her anything until she's hungry enough to eat leftovers and not complain.

Never tolerate brat behavior from children or seniors. If you're giving her good food, pay no attention to her fussing and don't cater to her. She may get stubborn and refuse to eat the same way a child does. A rumbling empty tummy cures stubbornness pretty fast.

My mother and her mother was like this for a while. They'd complain and pout over every meal. There was always something wrong with it even if it was what they wanted.

One day I did exactly what I remember my aunt doing with my grandmother when she started up with the complaints. She took her plate and threw it in the garbage. Then she got nothing until the next meal time. She learned quick that complaining and fussing aren't worth going hungry for. My mother certainly toned down he complaining and fussing too.

Maybe you should give my technique here a try. I'm sure Teepa Snow the world's leading "expert" on everything elderly would not agree. Then again she isn't paying your grocery bill is she?

If she screams and carries on let her know that she will not be allowed to remain in your home if she can't behave properly and that the food in the "home" you put her in will not be anywhere near as good as what she gets at your place.
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Lmkcbz Sep 20, 2024
I mean seriously … does anybody know how long it takes a person to starve to death? There’s zero risk of this happening if food is available. I’d like to think survival instincts kick in eventually and the will to live outweighs the will to be difficult. I read too many on here worried their elderly person is going to starve … I think we can all save ourselves some heartache letting that one worry go!!
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My mom has a strict 3 meal a day schedule at her care home. They encourage her to eat and drink. Please look out for dehydration. It happened to my mom because she wasn't eating or drinking enough. Your mom might like protein shakes. My mom is very stubborn. I bring my mom small containers of potato chips. She likes chocolate shakes as well. It might be junk food, but your mom needs to eat what she likes or she will refuse food and end up at the emergency.
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BurntCaregiver Sep 20, 2024
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It's good to have the nutrition shakes and snacks available for your mother, but I'll tell you something. When you give in and humor stubbornness, it only gets worse.
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Stop the crazy!! Let her scream it from the mountaintops that she’s starving and you’re mean. If somebody cares that much to believe her and want to come over and talk to you about your abhorrent behavior … they can fix her food while there. Is she overweight? If so, nobody will believe her. If she’s underweight … the person coming to yell at you can save her. Either way - who cares if she says your mean. You are caring for her - she’s welcome to find somebody less mean to be her slave. My mom goes on and on and on about the horrible food at assisted living yet she’s bigger every time I see her .. “if it’s so bad, Mom, I recommend trying a hunger strike. Skipping a meal or 10 when they’re “inedible” isn’t going to hurt you and will save you money on your daily room service charges.”
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Put a saucer with smallest of food and if queried say eat that and I’ll top it up
msybe you shd agree the menu and write it on a week sxheduke
gkntheu it with her and if queried revert to the schedule and say this is what we agreed for today sk tgat was cooked
maybe a meal replacement drink as back up or tin of rice pudding
snd stick with that
you’ll lose ur mind if u have to care and also worry about financials otherwise
best of luck
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BurntCaregiver Sep 20, 2024
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No, the OP isn't running a hotel/restaurant. Never humor this kind of stubbornness because it only makes it worse.
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Cally, I read most of the replies. A lot of what is going on is brain disfunction on the part of your Mom. Mom seems to be in a repetitive loop about food.

Can you afford to hire a caregiver 4 hours a week so you can get a break and head into town to get away from things. Or get someone else to sit with Mom for 4 hours so you can get a break?

We had firm meal times for Mom. 8:00 am for breakfast, 12:00 noon for lunch and 5:00 for dinner. If Mom had said she was hungry 20 minutes after the meal the CNA would have simply said our next meal is dinner at 5:00 and changed the subject.

If Mom did not eat all of her food it went back in frig and turned up on a plate the next day.

Read up on redirecting. If Mom would say something nutty, the CNA would acknowledge and then change the subject and ask Mom an unrelated question.
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My mother claims she isn’t hungry after half her dinner, tosses it in the trash. I only give her child sized portions to begin with. So I have started only making half that amount. If she is still hungry, there is cottage cheese or yogurt in the fridge. Told her I put in effort to make her stuff, the least she could do is f****g eat it
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Before my 100-yr old Italian-American Aunt with advanced dementia passed away, she had coffee with either corn muffins or bran muffins every morning. For years. For lunch she had half a can of Campbells Chicken and Rice (or Stars) soup with an egg in it. Every day for years. At night she ate whatever meal the family caregiver prepared. If she refused it, she got the other half of the can of soup. She was extremely healthy for her age. I'm mentioning her Italian heritage because of the psychotic level of attention we tend to give to food in general. At 65 I'm finally (mostly) over that myself. My point being that a focus on food and quality and variety at your Mom's age is overrated.
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Cally, I'm curious what kinds of meals are you making for her? Are they simple things like soup and half sandwich. Or full course meals?
My Mom could be the same way when she stayed with me at times.
It seems sometimes our elderly Moms can only threaten when they don't like something, not just food. It's a control issue. You will never get it right. Sometimes but just enough to keep you trying.
Another thought is that she's lost her ability to fix her own meals and that's frustrating for her.
I'm sorry you're dealing with this. Caregiving is challenging in the best of circumstances.
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Just read your replies, truly baffled why you care if mom threatens to tell others on you, doesn’t want the food you provide, and why you’re trying to endlessly reason with a person who cannot be reasoned with. This is like some strange cat and mouse game for you and mom. The only solution is for you to stop playing the game. She will not starve, and others will understand you’re not the bad guy (but really, who cares if they don’t?) This would have exhausted my efforts a long time ago
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Cally, your mom is yanking your chain. She can only do that because you put the collar on yourself and put the chain in her hand.
Honestly, who cares what she tells other people?
My great grandpa told anyone who would listen that my grandma never fed him. This, about a woman who never let a human being or animal leave her presence without PIE!
We all knew he was “full of beans”.
Look at other options for her care. You might not have the will to stand up to her and that’s ok; mother/daughter relationships are super complicated. Going around and around like this isn’t healthy. I would be willing to bet that she will not be nearly as difficult in a different setting with someone else.
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Cally, I've posted again below that this is about 'controlling you', not really about food. This may already not be the only part of it, and more will quite probably come. It's a big problem with ageing. You need to be confident about doing the right thing, but not jumping when she says 'jump'. You need to get better about standing up for yourself, or your life will not be worth living. You are not a child who obeys mother, you are unfortunately no longer in a sensible adult-adult relationship, you are now the one who must make the decisions.
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"She does threaten to tell people I'm not giving her enough food..."

Is she underweight?
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Jacquelinezr Sep 20, 2024
My answer to her would be "go ahead and tell everyone I'm not feeding you. Then they can feel free to have you live with them." And I would ignore those statements from her. Plus, what does the poster care what anyone thinks? If anyone questioned me about feeding or not feeling my mother, I'd tell them "And tell me what day this week you can come get her and move her to your house so you can better feed her. Next."
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Cally, if she is hungry, she will eat. It won’t matter if it is spoiled, or if it has no taste, or if she doesn’t like how it looks. When she turns food down, she is not hungry. She is bored, and for some reason she has found this way to control you. Just stop. It will only take a day, at the most two, for her to learn that she eats what you give her, either immediately or when she really does get hungry. It won't do her any harm.
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Cally2024 Sep 18, 2024
I have tried that to an extent. She threatens to tell people I'm depriving her of food and im being mean to her. She says "your not giving me enough food." "Im hungry " She may really feel that way because she wastes instead of eating and wants stiff every 20min-hr. I say ok let me get (whatever she asked for earlier) and she says "I don't believe I want thet right now. I'll eat it later" or "it doesn't have any taste to it" I have explained to her I can't fix your taste buds it's not the food. We cannot afford for you to waste food. She says I don't eat stuff I don't want to. I'm like well I know you didn't grow up rich and I know we weren't poor but we weren't rich either do I don't know where you're getting this from. I'm like you didn't let us kids or the grandkids waste. It changes nothing
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